pnwguy
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Post by pnwguy on Feb 14, 2023 17:11:15 GMT
What's so shocking to me about this Kushner thing is that he purports to be a religious Jew, very supportive of Israel, and yet he does business with Muslims whom his father in law denigrated for political purposes. I guess money is the true religion for him. Wasn't it his father-in-law that said he only wanted Jews to count his money? Maybe that goes for bribe money as well.
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pnwguy
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Post by pnwguy on Feb 15, 2023 21:40:36 GMT
The justice department decides NOT to prosecute Matt Goetz's sex trafficking crimes. There's a lost opportunity
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Post by LFC on Mar 1, 2023 0:38:15 GMT
Matt Gaetz repeated literal Chinese propaganda in a House hearing. Useful idiot, all the way.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 1, 2023 0:46:39 GMT
Matt Gaetz repeated literal Chinese propaganda in a House hearing. Useful idiot, all the way. Gaetz doesn't know where he got it beyond on whatever social media he follows (or his staff follows). And he won't learn from the witness who is merely someone of the Deep State Swamp.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 1, 2023 16:45:33 GMT
I don't know who is watching all the C-span video but there was some interesting video of Congress member Jamie Raskin's exasperation with the gentlewoman from Colorado.
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Post by LFC on Mar 2, 2023 19:14:05 GMT
Jamie Raskin is in full attack mode over each and every piece of bullshit coming from the Republicans. Good! They want a knock down drag out fight? Time to give it to them.
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Post by LFC on Mar 3, 2023 21:31:25 GMT
For once the Democrats seem prepared and have waged a solid anti-propaganda campaign. Gym Jordan, as expected, looks like a complete fool and partisan hack (which, of course, is exactly what he is).
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Post by LFC on Mar 3, 2023 21:33:45 GMT
From the Rolling Stone link above, Gym's star witnesses are a handful of right-wing cranks. As bad as the Hillary Clinton "hearings" were, brought to you by Traitor Gowdy, Gym's are even more ridiculous.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 3, 2023 23:58:25 GMT
For once the Democrats seem prepared and have waged a solid anti-propaganda campaign. Gym Jordan, as expected, looks like a complete fool and partisan hack (which, of course, is exactly what he is). He only looks that way to people like us who do not consume media like Faux, Newsmax, OAN, and the various social media sites. The Trump Cult will never, ever hear about it from those sources. And if they do, they'll claim that the Deep State is lying about these former, probably disgruntled for a lot of reasons, FBI folks. They are being cancelled, dontcha know!
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Post by LFC on Mar 6, 2023 16:46:58 GMT
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Post by andydp on Mar 8, 2023 16:33:13 GMT
More revelations about Gym Jordan Whistle Blowers. The beginning of the article us a rehash of known data. The best parts are in the middle. The kicker is in the final paragraph. Former FBI agent reveals 'the report Jim Jordan doesn’t want you to read' about his whistleblowersFormer FBI agent Asha Rangappa is posting excerpts of a report about Rep. Jim Jordan's (R-OH) so-called "FBI whistleblowers" from the alleging "deep state" conspiracies at the FBI. A report this week from The New York Times revealed that the three "aggrieved former FBI officials who have trafficked in right-wing conspiracy theories, including the Jan. 6, 2021 attack at the Capitol and received financial support from a top ally of former President Donald J. Trump." As part of his ongoing effort to bring down Joe Biden's government, Merrick Garland's Justice Department and the FBI itself, Jordan is running the committee on the "weaponization of government." "The Committee has now heard from three of these so-called whistleblowers," the report says. "George Hill, a retired FBI Supervisory Intelligence Analyst from the FBI's Boston Field Office; Garret O'Boyle, a suspended FBI special agent from the Wichita Resident Agency in Kansas; and Stephen Friend, a former special agent with the FBI's Daytona Beach Resident Agency. None of these witnesses has provided evidence of misconduct by the FBI, the Department of Justice, or any other public official. Each offered a wide range of personal opinions, but to the extent that they testified about matters to which they claim to have firsthand knowledge at all, none showed any evidence of wrongdoing." Instead, the report implies that they're merely former employees with an axe to grind and being paid to serve as Jordan's "whistleblowers." The report also says that the men have also been "directly connected to a network of extreme MAGA Republican operatives including former Trump administration officials Kash Patel, Russell Vought, and Mark Meadows, who have incentive to promote these witnesses and their meritless claims..." Patel paid both O'Boyle and Friend "$5,000 almost immediately after they connected in Nov. 2022. Patel has also promoted Friend's forthcoming book on social media." Patel also helped connect Donald Trump's "top election-fraud lawyer," Jesse Binnall, to O'Boyle to help serve as counsel. O'Boyle appeared shocked that the representation was "pro bono." Patel helped Friend score a job as a fellow for the Center for Renewing America, run by Vought and funded by the Conservative Partnership Institute and run by Meadows and lobbyist and former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC). While Jordan has called these men "whistleblowers," committee Republicans refuse to provide any documentation to prove that they have filed for whistleblower protections with the Department of Labor. Rangappa went on to tell Raw Story that based on what she's read thus far, "none of them meet the legal definition" for a whistleblower, "and it appears that they did not pursue to proper channels (like the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility) to have their whistleblower' claims evaluated." She pointed out comments from Friend that encourage defunding the police, claiming in a Tennessee podcast interview that the FBI "needs to be control, alt, deleted and completely eliminated and eradicated from the federal government." Hill retired in Oct. 2021, but he told the panel he heard through the grapevine that there was a financial institution that could be related to Jan. 6 investigations. He couldn't answer questions about where the information came from, he had no evidence, no specifics, never used the evidence himself in an investigation, never saw any documents about it and never worked on any cases around Jan. 6 before his retirement. Hill claimed that the Washington Field Office of the FBI asked the Boston office to help with Jan. 6 investigations. When asked about the Boston office's involvement, he confessed he wasn't part of any of those conversations and that the request was only as far as he had heard. The report argues this doesn't show any weaponization of government. The report also noted that "on at least two occasions, Friend engaged with Russian journalists and propaganda outlets while still an FBI employee." He spoke to Russia Today's John Kiriakou, who agreed to a plea deal in 2012 for "one count of intentionally disclosing information identifying a covert agent," the Justice Department said in a 2013 release. He had previously been charged with "two counts of violating the Espionage Act for allegedly illegally disclosing national defense information to individuals not authorized to receive it," a 2012 DOJ release said. When asked if Friend was familiar with Sputnik, he responded, "It's a Russian propaganda newspaper." He then confirmed he gave answers to questions from Ekaterina Blinova without authorization from superiors. (The report goes on for 316 pages of details about the three men, discounting their accounts as anything other than opinion and hearsay.) Emphasis added: Meanwhile, Jordan is requesting taxpayers fund an additional $2 million a year for his committee and a "substantial reserve fund" of $15 million for the investigations, Axios reported Tuesday. He's also demanding 16 FBI agents testify before the committee.www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-fbi-agent-reveals-the-report-jim-jordan-doesn-t-want-you-to-read-about-his-whistleblowers/ar-AA18kP2g
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 8, 2023 18:41:25 GMT
Why doesn't Jordan just ask his dark money providers to fund his investigations? That's hard money to trace (if not impossible) and any use of the money is not subject to public scrutiny, unlike tax dollars which some Congressional oversight committee could look into. $15 M in dark money could line a lot of pockets and maybe buy some people who are a little more credible than the disgruntled employee -who -really -had -nothing -to -do -with -anything -important witnesses he has now. Have the Trump sources of money for these witnesses dried up?
Good grief! Look at how corrupted my thinking has become!
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Post by LFC on Mar 8, 2023 22:07:38 GMT
More revelations about Gym Jordan Whistle Blowers. Gym Jordan bringing in corrupt, partisan, paid off crisis actors to testify as real people? I'm shocked! Shocked I say!
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Post by andydp on Mar 15, 2023 13:24:06 GMT
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Post by LFC on Mar 15, 2023 15:03:46 GMT
Josh Marshall covered the same ground. Here's the full piece ( paywalled) but basically there are several reasons this is flopping even inside their echo chamber. It's important that at the very least they have absolutely nothing, so they must desperately pull bullshit out of thin air. But it should also be noted that Gym Jordan and the rest of the crew are just bomb throwing clowns. Say what you will about Traitor Gowdy, he at least knew how to create a fig leaf of validity. But Josh thinks there's something else that makes this different.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 15, 2023 15:20:19 GMT
Josh Marshall covered the same ground. Here's the full piece ( paywalled) but basically there are several reasons this is flopping even inside their echo chamber. It's important that at the very least they have absolutely nothing, so they must desperately pull bullshit out of thin air. But it should also be noted that Gym Jordan and the rest of the crew are just bomb throwing clowns. Say what you will about Traitor Gowdy, he at least knew how to create a fig leaf of validity. But Josh thinks there's something else that makes this different. I'm not so sure about all of Marshall's analysis. I definitely agree that the Democrats are being more aggressive than they were in the Benghazi days. They've stopped silently rolling their eyes about the stupidity and instead are taking it on. Part of it, as for example the 300 page pre-buttal of the whistleblowers is that they had actual evidence to cite. Part of it is that they stopped assuming that the general public will see through the tissue paper thinness...for example Raskin taking on Boebert on a variety of things last week. The other two parts I don't see much difference from what happened before. Seems like stuff like Benghazi was also based on rumors flowing through that locked ecosystem of right wing media.
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Post by LFC on Mar 15, 2023 19:42:58 GMT
Greene Margarine is blurting out potentially classified information in a publicly accessible hearing. I guess she doesn’t realize, and certainly doesn’t care, that it’s illegal to expose classified information and that only the President of the United States can declassify it for public release. Time for the DOJ to investigate to see what laws she broke and prosecute her. We can’t have loose cannons in Congress with access to classified materials going off and revealing it just because they feel they should.
Where's Qevin to give her a public reprimand and a warning to never do that again. I won't hold my breath.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 15, 2023 21:37:11 GMT
Greene Margarine is blurting out potentially classified information in a publicly accessible hearing. I guess she doesn’t realize, and certainly doesn’t care, that it’s illegal to expose classified information and that only the President of the United States can declassify it for public release. Time for the DOJ to investigate to see what laws she broke and prosecute her. We can’t have loose cannons in Congress with access to classified materials going off and revealing it just because they feel they should.
Where's Qevin to give her a public reprimand and a warning to never do that again. I won't hold my breath.
She's Trump in younger and female form.
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pnwguy
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Post by pnwguy on Mar 16, 2023 0:02:36 GMT
She's Trump in younger and female form. Yes, and especially the delusional insanity aspect. Kari Lake is Ron DeSatanist in female form. More rational and dangerous if elected to anything.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 16, 2023 0:55:56 GMT
She's Trump in younger and female form. Yes, and especially the delusional insanity aspect. Kari Lake is Ron DeSatanist in female form. More rational and dangerous if elected to anything. I think they're all equally dangerous...just in slightly different ways. Trump, MTG, and maybe Lake have a personality thing that attracts people. Lake is someone I find more obnoxious than MTG because of a more "this is my persona affect" that comes off as fake. That's why she's in the maybe category. And I'm not so sure she would be any more competent than the other two. DeSantis is a complete zero in personality.
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Post by LFC on Mar 23, 2023 21:43:31 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 23, 2023 22:28:52 GMT
This is bar room talk again. It is divorced from reality but the talkers don't know what reality is. And they avoid anything that might clue them in to how things really work. So they spout this BS on right wing media and the loyal followers get pumped up with the BS too. They get elected and spout the same BS on the House Floor. It's all they know.
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Post by LFC on Mar 29, 2023 17:34:57 GMT
Irony is dead vaporized.
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Post by LFC on Mar 29, 2023 17:43:19 GMT
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Post by LFC on Mar 30, 2023 20:37:18 GMT
The Republican clown show continues and it's every bit as bad as you can imagine. Gone are the days of Traitor Gowdy who at least packaged his lies and false accusation in a somewhat slick package. Now it's Gym Jordan's circus and what we're seeing is basically "The Gong Show" on Red Bull and meth. This thread distills the insanity down to its main parts which are just mind numbing to read. This is not remotely the entire thread. Anybody who says "both sides are to blame" need to print this thread out, wrap it around a brick leaving the corners exposed, and shove it up their ass.
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