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Post by LFC on Nov 30, 2022 16:29:52 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Nov 30, 2022 17:13:11 GMT
Nice creative way of punishment though I'd think it should require some very close supervision of these two while they are registering people.
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Post by LFC on Dec 1, 2022 17:03:12 GMT
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Post by LFC on Dec 1, 2022 17:06:38 GMT
The childish temper tantrum being thrown by Cochise County, AZ Republicans is on the verge of flipping a House seat. Don't like it? Hey, the law is the law! That's what Republicans have told us repeatedly when any attempt is made to help people vote in the first place.
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Post by goldenvalley on Dec 1, 2022 17:23:54 GMT
The childish temper tantrum being thrown by Cochise County, AZ Republicans is on the verge of flipping a House seat. Don't like it? Hey, the law is the law! That's what Republicans have told us repeatedly when any attempt is made to help people vote in the first place. That's not fair to the voters in Cochise County. Somebody in that county ought to be seeking some sort of writ of mandate for the Board of Supes to do their ministerial duty in the absence of evidence of actual fraud.
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Post by jackd on Dec 1, 2022 20:34:59 GMT
I don't know; maybe we should just accept the House seat and say, thank you.
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Post by LFC on Dec 1, 2022 22:20:59 GMT
That's not fair to the voters in Cochise County. Somebody in that county ought to be seeking some sort of writ of mandate for the Board of Supes to do their ministerial duty in the absence of evidence of actual fraud. I don't know; maybe we should just accept the House seat and say, thank you.
While I most definitely support expanded voting rights and abilities, I have to admit it's tough caring about helping those who voted for the hosing they may end up receiving. It is an overwhelmingly Republican county. This is what their years of voting mean. It's kind of like listening to people who vote for politicians that promise more and more tax cuts, but then turn around whine that the roads aren't nice, bridges aren't repaired, it's tough to get help in government offices, etc. And then whine their taxes are sky high. (Rinse, wash, repeat.)
I would never advocate actively doing anything to improperly take away the county's votes. I just don't care to advocate saving them from themselves. As they loved to say about others, "the law's the law."
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Post by indy on Dec 1, 2022 23:25:19 GMT
Judge ordered them to certify by 5pm today and I believe they have.
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Post by LFC on Dec 6, 2022 15:21:26 GMT
Giuliani is in court defending himself as they look to taking away his D.C. license to practice law. On the one hand his defense is horrendous and he's been called out multiple times in court already. On the other what other defense does he have? He fully supported The Big Lie and was instrumental in pushing Trump's coup attempt in court.
This. Just sayin'.
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Post by jackd on Dec 6, 2022 15:43:25 GMT
The real complaint against him is filing actions without any evidentiary basis. It's permissible to claim fraud and election law violations but not without evidence.
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Post by LFC on Dec 6, 2022 17:34:24 GMT
The real complaint against him is filing actions without any evidentiary basis. It's permissible to claim fraud and election law violations but not without evidence. I guess the Tucker Carlson / Sidney Powell "no reasonable person would believe me" defense would be very useful when accused of filing invalid complaints in a court of law.
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Post by jackd on Dec 6, 2022 18:34:54 GMT
Um, no.
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Post by LFC on Dec 6, 2022 21:25:05 GMT
Oh, Rudy. It doesn't sound like he's got an attorney with him. I can practically hear him now.
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Post by andydp on Dec 7, 2022 15:22:42 GMT
You mean years of claiming mail in voting (and other kinds of voting) is rigged didn't work ? Newt Gingrich urged the GOP to embrace mail-in voting in the wake of Georgia Senate runoff lossFormer House Speaker and veteran Republican operative Newt Gingrich called for the party to rethink its tactics in the wake of GOP candidate Herschel Walker's defeat in Tuesday's Georgia Senate runoff. Mail-in ballots and other early voting measures have long been the target of Trump and his allies, who have baselessly claimed they are plagued by mass fraud. Some analysts believe these attacks have dented the confidence of Republican voters in the integrity of elections, while a surge in early ballots have given Democrats strong platforms to build off. "You have to play the game by the rules that are existing," Gingrich said. "That means, for example, if you want Generation Z voters you've got to be on TikTok, even if in fact in the long run we may abolish TikTok as a Chinese communist device," he said. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newt-gingrich-urged-the-gop-to-embrace-mail-in-voting-in-the-wake-of-georgia-senate-runoff-loss/ar-AA150PXj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fb51544c43814c038114e8f5f937f302
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Post by goldenvalley on Dec 7, 2022 16:15:54 GMT
You mean years of claiming mail in voting (and other kinds of voting) is rigged didn't work ? Newt Gingrich urged the GOP to embrace mail-in voting in the wake of Georgia Senate runoff lossFormer House Speaker and veteran Republican operative Newt Gingrich called for the party to rethink its tactics in the wake of GOP candidate Herschel Walker's defeat in Tuesday's Georgia Senate runoff. Mail-in ballots and other early voting measures have long been the target of Trump and his allies, who have baselessly claimed they are plagued by mass fraud. Some analysts believe these attacks have dented the confidence of Republican voters in the integrity of elections, while a surge in early ballots have given Democrats strong platforms to build off. "You have to play the game by the rules that are existing," Gingrich said. "That means, for example, if you want Generation Z voters you've got to be on TikTok, even if in fact in the long run we may abolish TikTok as a Chinese communist device," he said. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newt-gingrich-urged-the-gop-to-embrace-mail-in-voting-in-the-wake-of-georgia-senate-runoff-loss/ar-AA150PXj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fb51544c43814c038114e8f5f937f302 The complaint about vote by mail being inherently subject to fraud is fairly recent...like in the last 2 1/2 years. Gingrich seems to understand that this BS has a negative impact on Republicans. Looking at the counties in CA that have been roiled by distrust of elections I see many of them voted for Trump 2 1/2 years ago and elected a lot of Republicans into office then and last month. Even when they win, they don't trust the results. That's a problem.
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Post by andydp on Dec 7, 2022 16:42:28 GMT
Oh, Rudy. It doesn't sound like he's got an attorney with him. I can practically hear him now.
Before you act, it’s Prudence soberly to consider; for after Action you cannot recede without dishonour: Take the Advice of some Prudent Friend; for he who will be his own Counsellour, shall be sure to have a Fool for his Client. (Funny how we knew that already) quoteinvestigator.com/2019/07/30/lawyer/
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Post by LFC on Dec 7, 2022 17:56:24 GMT
Special prosecutor Jack Smith has subpoenaed 5 counties for information that might shed light on Trump's pressure campaign to overturn the election. Remember that throwing several swing states into election turmoil was critical to his coup attempt. More info on the counties and Trump's activities.
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Post by goldenvalley on Dec 7, 2022 18:06:25 GMT
Special prosecutor Jack Smith has subpoenaed 5 counties for information that might shed light on Trump's pressure campaign to overturn the election. Remember that throwing several swing states into election turmoil was critical to his coup attempt. More info on the counties and Trump's activities. Looks like the whole panoply of attempted election theft is being looked at. Maybe the special counsel will be able to tie this is directly to Trump via Giuliani and company along with Eastman and the fake electors stuff. Roger Stone has to be in there somewhere too. Trump likes to sit back and let someone else organize nefarious doings while he guards himself with deniability and actual inability to plan this stuff.
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Post by LFC on Dec 12, 2022 17:18:49 GMT
Hoisted on their own retard.
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Post by LFC on Dec 27, 2022 15:34:02 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Dec 27, 2022 16:07:03 GMT
And yes, of course he was on the fraudulent Republican voter fraud train.
His spin will be that this just illustrates how easy it is to commit fraud and that voter rolls are inaccurate and should be purged as soon as someone files a change of address form with USPS. Why even an elected official will do it!
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Post by LFC on Dec 27, 2022 16:28:32 GMT
His spin will be that this just illustrates how easy it is to commit fraud and that voter rolls are inaccurate and should be purged as soon as someone files a change of address form with USPS. Why even an elected official will do it! Then he'll sponsor a bill that exempts members of Congress.
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Post by LFC on Dec 27, 2022 16:57:57 GMT
DeSatanist's record on entrapping former inmates continues to be unimpressive. It doesn't get much more fascist than imprisoning American citizens for fun and political profit.
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Post by andydp on Dec 28, 2022 23:27:26 GMT
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Post by LFC on Dec 29, 2022 0:04:06 GMT
Always a Republican.
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