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Post by goldenvalley on May 8, 2021 16:21:58 GMT
It just keeps going further and further off the rails. The fauditors are demanding passwords ... F***ING PASSWORDS!!!!! ... for accounts with access to critical election infrastructure. If this had been a real audit they would have requested to have their own accounts set up in advance and they would have had only the read permissions they needed. Why didn't they? First, that takes competence. Second, once the faudit ended the accounts would be locked. Third, changes and inappropriate access can be tracked to individual accounts. They don't want ANY of that shit. clip
Yep, they want passwords that give them access to source code. How long before THAT tidbit of info ended up in Vladimir's hands?
The more you read about this "audit" the more you realize how we've entered a bizarre, dangerous state of affairs. This audit consists of amateurs chasing down every bullshit fraud allegation made in the fever dreams of conspiracy driven paranoia. And now they seek passwords because they're not finding what they wanted to find. So they have concluded it's because it's all hidden away in password protected places. Yet again the norms of governance aren't putting a brake on any of this because 1. people in authority like the AZ Senate are not just doing nothing, but actively seeking out this "audit" and 2. when people act so completely outside of the norms and expectations of laws currently in place, there is no way to stop them.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 8, 2021 17:21:36 GMT
Interesting assessment by David Graham at The Atlantic. And why are they seeking outside money? The official broadcast partner of the audit??? Is this the Olympics coverage? This is crazy and dangerous. OAN will want a big exposure of fraud to boost their viewership so we know what the "results" of the audit will be and the reaction it will generate. How do we stop the insanity?
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Post by jackd on May 8, 2021 20:03:42 GMT
I don't think we can stop the insanity. We simply have to beat them at the polls and that is going to be extremely hard work since state legislatures that are controlled by Republicans are free to gerrymander and change procedures without interference from the courts. The only solution is a determined ground game to get out our vote regardless of obstacles. We are highly unlikely to be able to convert Trumpers.
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Post by LFC on May 8, 2021 23:02:27 GMT
Apparently going to jail for the Arizona faudit is not in the cards and they backed off of their direct voter contact scheme once the DOJ brought up legality issues. Imagine if it was Sessions or Barr in charge. They would have sent federal agents to help intimidate people.
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Post by pnwguy on May 9, 2021 1:31:52 GMT
what Republicans in places like Arizona need next is to ban secret voting. Your votes must now be public record, so that "decent citizens" can be sure you voted Republican. Otherwise, maybe something bad might happen to you.
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Post by AnBr on May 9, 2021 2:46:10 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 9, 2021 15:27:30 GMT
what Republicans in places like Arizona need next is to ban secret voting. Your votes must now be public record, so that "decent citizens" can be sure you voted Republican. Otherwise, maybe something bad might happen to you. I agree. And vote by mail is the most secret ballot of all. That's why it must be reduced and/or eliminated. You can't intimidate people by driving large trucks blasting candidate ads through the parking lots of polling places or parked in front of drop boxes, staring at them and taking photos and videos with smart phones when people simply mail their ballots to the elections office.
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Post by LFC on May 10, 2021 12:58:24 GMT
Now if he and the rest of the crew can just realize how long the list of things is of things that make you look like idiots then they could be on the verge of rejoining reality. I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 13:16:27 GMT
"Looking like idiots" is just representative democracy at work.
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Post by LFC on May 10, 2021 13:42:49 GMT
The crank at the center of the Arizona faudit is now a folk hero for the MAGAt crowd in Windham, NH. They know he'll find fraud for them and guaranteed outcomes are what this is all about.
Gee, Bruce. If a groundswell of people want the MyPillow Guy as town treasurer should you pick him too?
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Post by LFC on May 11, 2021 20:00:43 GMT
At least one journalist is trying to hold AZ Republican state senator Paul Boyer's feet to the fire for his support of, and now attempted slinking away from, the Arizona Republican faudit.
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Post by LFC on May 11, 2021 23:15:31 GMT
Arizona continues its attack on voters with aggressive mail-in ballot list purging. I'm sure, once again, we'll find out after the fact that "somehow" more Dems and in particular minorities ended up being purged.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 12, 2021 15:19:36 GMT
Arizona continues its attack on voters with aggressive mail-in ballot list purging. I'm sure, once again, we'll find out after the fact that "somehow" more Dems and in particular minorities ended up being purged.
It's a shame. Arizona has had what we call in CA "permanent vote by mail status" for a number of years. It's worked just fine, no one ever had an issue with it. There are lots of people that only vote in presidential election years; nothing nefarious in that. But in service of the man in Mar A Lago, a perfectly acceptable and secure way of voting is being demolished.
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Post by pnwguy on May 12, 2021 15:32:45 GMT
Next up in AZ? Automatic purge of voters who are not registered Republican. They aren't Real 'Muricans anyway...
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Post by LFC on May 12, 2021 16:45:18 GMT
Next up in AZ? Automatic purge of voters who are not registered Republican. They aren't Real 'Muricans anyway... Isn't that more or less what all Republican lead voter purges end up being?
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Post by LFC on May 13, 2021 21:04:30 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 13, 2021 22:08:12 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 14, 2021 18:38:47 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 14, 2021 18:51:29 GMT
Is he going to throw himself on the mercy of the court pleading that he is a widower?
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Post by LFC on May 17, 2021 20:06:28 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 17, 2021 21:05:17 GMT
Intimidation of poll workers is the latest Republican voter suppression technique. Imagine being a volunteer working a blue district in a red state. We have more than enough proof that you can be expected to be attacked by the Republican fascists for doing your job.
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Post by LFC on May 18, 2021 13:00:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 13:34:31 GMT
Voting rights shouldn't be a partisan issue and it's not for real Americans. LFC strikes a hopeful tone. The morning coffee did wonders for him as he sat contemplating, lost in a Norman Rockwell painting. We will see how many subscribe to his idea of real Americans, and how many he deems to be ersatz.
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Post by LFC on May 18, 2021 14:44:01 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 18, 2021 16:20:19 GMT
I saw the Recorder on tv last night. He won his office by about 5000 votes in Maricopa County. No one is saying that part of the election is fraudulent. He defended his department and employees. Then he just had to snark about never dreaming that he would end up being interviewed on MSNBC. I'm hoping he just learned that he will never get on Fox News saying what he did about the "audit."
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