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Post by goldenvalley on May 6, 2022 22:14:43 GMT
And read these words he approvingly quotes again. This is the very definition of the authoritarian state and state sponsored religion. Is it any wonder he has such a boner for Orbán?
Got that? The state will "rebuild those communities" and "create new national elites." Yeah, that's not scary at all.
That is exactly what he and others accuse the "woke" of doing...create elites, rebuild society to fix what is wrong with it now.... It's all about who is in power, that's all it ever is.
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Post by AnBr on May 7, 2022 11:16:42 GMT
Remember when the right used to whine about social engineering? Seems like the free market is getting dumped on the same trash heap. At least for them.
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Post by LFC on May 7, 2022 14:19:35 GMT
Remember when the right used to whine about social engineering? Seems like the free market is getting dumped on the same trash heap. At least for them. Ditto freedom.
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Post by LFC on Jun 2, 2022 18:02:06 GMT
TAC continues to be a shitshow of a post-truth conservatism. Here's a piece that so clearly doesn't get what corporations have been doing on inclusiveness. It's like it was written by somebody in a bunker who has never actually been in the working world.
They've been so busy playing the victim for so long that they can't grasp that companies want ALL employees to feel comfortable, not just the ones the right clearly wants to feel UNcomfortable. It's good for business when you can hire from across the board and when everybody at your company is happy and content. Instead we have "Oooo! Look at the big shift!" that hasn't occurred.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 8, 2022 7:13:11 GMT
I looked at The American Conservative for the first time in a long time. If I'm not mistaken it's dropped all comment sections and I'm not sure Rod Dreher seems to be a blogger. Is this a new thing or have I so tuned it out that I missed this?
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Post by LFC on Jul 8, 2022 13:45:53 GMT
I looked at The American Conservative for the first time in a long time. If I'm not mistaken it's dropped all comment sections and I'm not sure Rod Dreher seems to be a blogger. Is this a new thing or have I so tuned it out that I missed this? I see they've changed the layout since I last visited. Dreher's still there over in the right-hand column but it does seem like they've dropped comments. I guess they didn't like their bullshit being pointed out over and over. Contrary (i.e. sane) opinions were already dying as they seemed to be hacking down non-sycophants in the comments section pretty hard.
And it's still completely insane. Gotta' love a piece titled "Conservatives Must Prioritize the Second Amendment" in the face of sky high gun deaths.
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 8, 2022 18:33:09 GMT
And it's still completely insane. Gotta' love a piece titled "Conservatives Must Prioritize the Second Amendment" in the face of sky high gun deaths.
Is there anything more Pro-Life than the worship of guns? Are you some cheese-eating surrender monkey? Shouldn't TAC have their own logo imprinted infant onesie that says "I can't wait until I can hold a gun (and go RINO hunting)" ?
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Post by LFC on Jul 13, 2022 1:14:15 GMT
Just out of interest I checked out TAC's coverage of the hearings on the Jan 6 Republican Insurrection. Going back to June 1 there was only one piece from June 20. Just one. It's entitled January 6 Was Not a Coup by Peter Van Buren who, to put it bluntly, is a liar and a nutjob and has been for as long as I've known who he was. Here's his vast intellect on full display:
The amount of reality this has to dodge to work is vast. It's a propaganda masterpiece, to be sure.
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Post by indy on Jul 13, 2022 11:19:37 GMT
There are a lot of criminals in jails all over the U.S. that would fervently support the proposition that attempting to do something illegal is only a crime if it can succeed..."You see, your honor, the vault was on a timer and I couldn't possibly open it with the screwdriver and wire cutters I was attempting to use. Let's just call it a day here and go home."
And, of course, I'm sure Putin would entirely agree with the assertion that there can't be a coup unless tanks are involved.
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Post by LFC on Jul 29, 2022 17:43:42 GMT
After reading about Viktor Orbán spoke against "race mixing" I had to look to see if Rod Dreher would spin a steaming pile of apologetics for his man crush / daddy figure. He didn't fail to disappoint with not one but two articles filled with lots of "you have to understand"-isms. At least he admits it's all about tribalism (where have we heard about "purity" before?) but doesn't seem to think that's necessarily a bad thing.
So in the first one we get he's not really racist and "LOOK! SQUIRREL! SOME LIBERAL ORGANIZATION!" He manages to equate inter-racial / inter-culture marriages with a university reaching out to the families of minority freshmen over their concerns. That takes some amazing mental gymnastics a blunt refusal to think about a comparison at the most fundamental level of reality. (No mention of Liberty University's relatively rescinded policy against interracial dating which would have been vastly more comparable.)
From the second link here is his defense of tribalism. I've heard those I consider to be decent people speak up against every one of his examples in the past.
Then comes the big reveal. He's basically a religious bigot. He believes in the acceptance of tribalism because he is deeply embedded in his own tribe, just one based on religion rather than language. Both look to "defend" their "culture" against those who aren't like them. And that, my friends, forms the very basis of bigotry, bullying, and the belief that the "others" don't get an equal say.
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Post by LFC on Jul 29, 2022 17:56:58 GMT
Moving on from Dreher we have this amazing example of false equivalence. To give the author credit they didn't try to bury that fact. They put their stake of stupidity in the ground right in the first paragraph and continues from there.
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Post by LFC on Jul 29, 2022 18:10:50 GMT
Then there's this perfectly written I'm not a racist but we should promote a racist museum piece. At least he's honest about the establishment he's talking about but somehow he thinks this is a worthwhile group to promote rather than a complete crank, racist group that still supports treason. It's just another example of TAC swirling down the toilet as they allow an apologist for racist lies write for them. Of course that's part of American conservatism today.
The museum pulls the "black friend" card rather nicely. You have to love how the author simply presents two separate, easily verifiable lies and then unblinkingly says they disagree with the slavery angle and calls it an "alternative interpretation." I don't know how you alternatively interpret one document and speech after another by Confederate states and leaders that say it was about slavery, unless of course lying is now viewed as legitimate "interpretation."
On the black Confederates it only took the simplest web search to find out that this too is a lie, er, "alternate interpretation." (Sounds like another term for alternate facts.)
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Post by LFC on Sept 3, 2022 1:13:29 GMT
Man, TAC has practically become a Putin propaganda factory.
Putin’s Last Laugh: Because higher energy prices in Europe means Putin won the economic war? Lots of quoting by Dreher but he finally gets around to polishing Orban's knob. He then tap dances around a bit and throws up the strawman that nobody (other than the great and all knowing Orban) saw Putin's energy retaliation coming. For real? I guess he doesn't follow real news anymore.
German Foreign Minister: ‘Let My People Freeze’: Back to the energy war with Dreher. Apparently suffering to support a people being slaughtered by a maniac who has threatened and invaded multiple countries is a bad thing. For a "Christian" he sure doesn't see saving lives having the value of an uncomfortable (but with LNG deliveries doubtfully fatal) winter. How weak his faith is. Then this throwaway really shows his hatred in the cold, harsh light of day. He can't help it anymore.
How far from democracy they've fallen. With people there like Pat Buchanan it makes me wonder if they ever really cared about democracy in the first place. At least some of them used to.
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Post by LFC on Sept 3, 2022 1:19:38 GMT
Dreher: Biden's the fascist! He really has become a good Nazi.
This is dismissed with one word: "fine." Then he goes on a rant trying to bring parity with the BLM protests (but not mentioning that much of the violence had nothing to do with the protestors, of course), and transexuals and whiteness, and and and... It's a classic right-wing meltdown where anything and everything can be, if not excused, dismissed with "fine." This is the full embrace of fascism without admitting that he's fully embracing fascism. He'll "tsk, tsk" as the violence erupts and then blame the left for making them do it. He's one sick, twisted puppy. No wonder his wife left him.
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Post by LFC on Sept 3, 2022 3:56:51 GMT
Praise for the AZ Senate candidate is who one hair from being pure and open about his racism. He's also said Jan 6 was a false flag operation and "black people" were responsible for gun violence. And he supports a federal "personhood" law for fetuses. In other words, TAC loves him.
Yeah, none of the other racist shit even mentioned. He's their boy. (And the GOP wants nothing to do with him, apparently, other than the fact that they need a warm body in that seat.)
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Post by LFC on Sept 3, 2022 15:08:45 GMT
TAC goes after a PA supreme court ruling on mail-in ballots. Note the failure to mention a) that it does allow voting to be more accessible which should be an unalloyed good and b) that Republicans were for it before they were against it. Note the giveaways right up front with the Republican epithet "Democrat justices" and the meltdown that mail-in ballots (during a pandemic) benefited Democrats ... THIS time. But again, it was Republicans who were for it before they were against it. Not a peep on that steaming pile of hypocrisy.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 3, 2022 15:39:37 GMT
TAC goes after a PA supreme court ruling on mail-in ballots. Note the failure to mention a) that it does allow voting to be more accessible which should be an unalloyed good and b) that Republicans were for it before they were against it. Note the giveaways right up front with the Republican epithet "Democrat justices" and the meltdown that mail-in ballots (during a pandemic) benefited Democrats ... THIS time. But again, it was Republicans who were for it before they were against it. Not a peep on that steaming pile of hypocrisy. Such whinging about being a loser. A ballot is an expression of a voter's choices; that's all it is. The method of returning it doesn't change the voter's choices.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 3, 2022 15:43:42 GMT
Seriously Mr Dreher? I do hope he'll be renouncing his American citizenship soon.
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Post by pnwguy on Sept 3, 2022 16:47:38 GMT
Seriously Mr Dreher? I do hope he'll be renouncing his American citizenship soon. He must be in the process of applying for Hungarian citizenship right now, as a "refugee" from a country where white Christian nationalists are persecuted. In his deluded fantasies the 21st century gas chambers will be of Americans herded into libraries to listen to drag queen story hour.
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Post by LFC on Sept 4, 2022 17:47:23 GMT
He must be in the process of applying for Hungarian citizenship right now, as a "refugee" from a country where white Christian nationalists are persecuted. In his deluded fantasies the 21st century gas chambers will be of Americans herded into libraries to listen to drag queen story hour. Having semi-followed Dreher for a number of years I have clearly seen his descent into madness and his mounting inability to see the world as it is, rather than his persecution filter. I imagine his wife saw that too and finally gave up trying to make him whole again. He is now a complete mess, an amalgamation of massive daddy issues, a dash of childhood trauma, and a heaping dose of f***ed up orthodox religion all boiling in a stewing persecution complex. I think he may be beyond repair at this point.
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Post by LFC on Sept 19, 2022 22:30:05 GMT
I did a quick check-in at TAC and the utter nuttiness was out in its full glory. What would a TAC check be without Rod Dreher in a total meltdown (it must be tough to live in a state of near constant freaking out)? This times it's about sex. Sex, sex, and more sex. He is totally obsessed with every other kind of sex other than male-female within marriage, plus I wonder if he believes and obeyed the Orthodox Catholic stance that all sex must be potentially procreative. I could see his obsession pushing him into that camp quite easily. Anyway here, in part of its glory, is Rod melting down over sex. Got that? The instability of working class men with little hope for the "American dream" is because of ... porn and paying to talk dirty to somebody. Not because they are angry at people who look down on those bettering themselves and who treat women like shit, especially those who are bettering themselves.
And, of course, gay marriage is what's destroying heterosexual marriage. Uh, huh.
The rest of the piece consists of the same brand of meltdown over any expression of sexuality that he disapproves of, which is almost all of them. It's always been one of his standing gripes but this piece brings it all together in one big meltdown.
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Post by LFC on Sept 19, 2022 22:34:20 GMT
This one isn't as fun as watching Dreher's freakout over sex but it's a nice piece of classic right-wing soft pedaling. Bold min.
Let's roll that image, shall we?
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Post by indy on Sept 20, 2022 13:55:11 GMT
I'm always a little fascinated when I see these graphs because SO MUCH context is just missing from a one-dimensional view like this. What happened with divorces during this time frame? Did they go down? If so, less of the population is available to be married. You should actually look at something at least a little more relevant to the discussion at hand, like age groups, etc.
Here, for example, is a look at the last ten years from the census bureau which shows marriages of women aged 15+ along with what has happened to divorce rates in the same time period. Things look a lot less dramatic, which of course won't feed into his twisted narrative.
But beyond this, I assume at least somebody mentioned in the comments that, you know, a global pandemic had occurred?
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Post by LFC on Oct 2, 2022 20:37:11 GMT
Rod Dreher is actually moving to Budapest to live in an increasingly fascist, bigoted paradise with a heavy helping of theocracy, of course.
When I read this all I could think is that, as part of his descent into literal madness, he drove away not only his wife but also his children. He's the righteous nutjob who can't understand why the people he loves just can't understand what is so clear to him. If he failed to separate that from his family dealings, and I find it hard to believe he would have been able to as these people never can, the burden of dealing with this crazy man on his family must have been tremendous. Of course Rod is the victim because, well, of course he is.
As he rides off to live his best life in a fascist nation all I can say is...
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Post by indy on Oct 2, 2022 21:35:11 GMT
Rod seems a bit old to have finally realized the world has no problem moving on with or without you. You can't outrun it either.
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