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Post by Bact PhD on Jan 19, 2022 19:26:04 GMT
Here's a suggestion of 3 things for Biden and the Democrats to do now. Re the suggestion concerning the WV Senator: Greenberg seems awfully confident that said Senator won’t move the goalposts…again.
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Post by Traveler on Jan 22, 2022 16:23:22 GMT
Between Schumer and Biden, I have never seen such incompetence. Mistaking his election as a mandate for progressives and trying to foist BBB without taxing the rich and restoring 100% of SALT was the epitome of overreach and hubris. Now we are back where we started. The progressives are going to have to shut up and take what they can realistically get. Manchin deserves a lot of blame for this, in that he played Lucy and the football ever since it was brought up. But that doesn't explain the overreach, which is a big part of Joe's abysmal polling.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jan 22, 2022 16:53:42 GMT
Between Schumer and Biden, I have never seen such incompetence. Mistaking his election as a mandate for progressives and trying to foist BBB without taxing the rich and restoring 100% of SALT was the epitome of overreach and hubris. Now we are back where we started. The progressives are going to have to shut up and take what they can realistically get. Manchin deserves a lot of blame for this, in that he played Lucy and the football ever since it was brought up. But that doesn't explain the overreach, which is a big part of Joe's abysmal polling. There are a lot of reasons Biden's polling is bad. First Delta, now Omicron variants are ascendant. The media harped on the Afghanistan withdrawal a lot, I suspect because it offered some relief from talking about Covid. And inflation. BBB, in my mind was needed and Biden had no choice but to dance with Manchin on it. The media reported BBB in horse race style, the same way they did the voting rights bills. So we don't really know what was intended. I think folks like Pelosi made a mistake in calling it "transformative" which sounds scary. And the dollar amount looked scary. The media never bothered to explained that figure was not the amount to be spent in a single year but over 10 years. Horse race reporting doesn't care about the such details. I doubt the Reps would have supported any part of the BBB no matter how small or large it was. They figured they had to vote for the Covid relief bill and a least some saw personal political gain in the infrastructure bill. Now they're done. They smell blood and they'll do nothing but obstruct from here on out.
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Post by jackd on Jan 22, 2022 18:07:09 GMT
I think Biden's principal problem is the virus and its effects on the economy, like inflation and logistical obstacles to consumerism that contribute to inflation. Also do not underestimate the shallow self centeredness of the public. To say that Biden should not have tried for as much as he did is too easy a dismissal. What should he have tried for that would not have been obstructed by the Republicans and "moderates" in the Congress? The popularity of the BBB provisions has been demonstrated over and over again in the polls. It's the Congress that resists, not the people, for its own reasons which are largely related to greed. Afghanistan was going to go badly no matter when it was attempted. All things considered, it went surprisingly well. The military has much to answer for that problem. Had Biden followed the advice of the "moderates", he would not have attempted anything and would be being criticized as old and ineffectual just as he is now.
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Post by LFC on Jan 23, 2022 0:16:37 GMT
Had Biden followed the advice of the "moderates", he would not have attempted anything and would be being criticized as old and ineffectual just as he is now. The media will destroy him. The reporting on Afghanistan was abysmal with the briefest mention that the operation moved a massive number of people successfully and almost zero analysis how everybody who said we should have stayed to prop up the government was proven completely, totally, and utterly wrong. Instead it was "AAAAAHHHHH!!!!! There was a terrorist attack!!!" (Like that hasn't been happening continually for decades.) "AAAAAAHHHH!!!!! Some people didn't get pulled out!!!" (With numbers that rose with each successive meeting of the previous stated demand.) AFAIC the withdrawal from Afghanistan was about as good as it was going to get and I for one am glad we're out.
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Post by jackd on Jan 23, 2022 0:38:05 GMT
Likewise.
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Post by AnBr on Jan 23, 2022 12:22:49 GMT
Some people didn't get pulled out!!!" (With numbers that rose with each successive meeting of the previous stated demand.) AFAIC the withdrawal from Afghanistan was about as good as it was going to get and I for one am glad we're out. From what I heard most that were not pulled out wanted to stay. I am getting tired of this knee jerk reaction of people blaming Biden as fumbling or being ineffectual for failure to get things passed. How much could ANYONE be able to get done given a Senate with a 50-50 split and Moscow Mitch's intransigence? And with Manchin & Sinema that is less than 50%. There is only so much that is possible from the bully pulpit and negotiating with/arm twisting people that have already made up their minds to say no from the start. And it doesn't help with the media's approach to coverage looking for that horse race where none exists.
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Post by LFC on Jan 23, 2022 14:05:06 GMT
How much could ANYONE be able to get done given a Senate with a 50-50 split and Moscow Mitch's intransigence? Behold the legion of armchair quarterbacks!
It's the classic Democrat / Republican double standard. Dems push for multiple things, most of which are popular, Republicans obstruct which they can do in our form of government, therefore the Dems are ineffectual. Republicans then get voted in, do nothing but tax cuts for the rich and gin up culture wars and the MSM makes nary a peep. Moscow Mitch learned long ago that doing nothing was their best strategy because they wouldn't get called on it.
But yeah, "both sides are bad."
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Post by Traveler on Feb 2, 2022 17:44:10 GMT
Folks, first time back in a couple of weeks. I still think my points stand. Ron Klain looks like the one who overreached. Face it, Biden is only as good as his team. Which has let him down. Repeatedly. And unfortunately, the buck stops with him. And note my takedown of the wealthy Dems that torpedoed any decent tax policies. Heck, even Manchin called that out. Of course, Sinema is the obvious culprit there. But many SALT state representatives foisted that provision to completely repeal, vs. upping the limit which would have helped them a lot. Now they got nuttin'.
And the inflation analyses over at BB definitely DO suggest that the stimulus is partly responsible, and could have been much better crafted to focus on the less fortunate. Like extending the child tax credit. Not that is gone too. 20/20 hindsight maybe, but a lot of this was evident during the sausage making.
BTW, it ain't both sides bad like the MSM likes to shriek. We all know who is truly bad. So craft your approaches accordingly.
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Post by jackd on Feb 2, 2022 23:05:52 GMT
Most of your points are "theoretical" given the reality of no real majority in the Senate.
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Post by goldenvalley on Feb 2, 2022 23:35:04 GMT
Most of your points are "theoretical" given the reality of no real majority in the Senate. Witness the impact of a single Senator being hospitalized and how that might impact the timing on some sort of continuing budget resolution and confirmation of a US Supreme Court justice. And the Senator is only 49 years old...there are Senators much older than 49 in both parties. Control of the Senate is one or three hospitalizations, maybe deaths away at any time.
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Post by LFC on Feb 3, 2022 15:08:18 GMT
Witness the impact of a single Senator being hospitalized and how that might impact the timing on some sort of continuing budget resolution and confirmation of a US Supreme Court justice. And the Senator is only 49 years old...there are Senators much older than 49 in both parties. Control of the Senate is one or three hospitalizations, maybe deaths away at any time. I read in one of the pieces somewhere that the average age of a U.S. Senator is 63.
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Post by pnwguy on Feb 3, 2022 16:22:55 GMT
It could work the other way too.
If Karma would strike down Moscow Mitch, Beshear could appoint a Democrat to his seat, which would change things dramatically.
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Post by Traveler on Feb 3, 2022 18:51:14 GMT
Most of your points are "theoretical" given the reality of no real majority in the Senate. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Thanks.
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Post by LFC on Mar 8, 2022 16:13:15 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 8, 2022 16:43:29 GMT
And even if new drilling were permitted it would take a year or so before any oil was pumped out and refined. It's not like turning on the water faucet. Facts are stubborn things Mr Doocy.
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Post by LFC on Mar 8, 2022 17:20:31 GMT
Facts are stubborn things Mr Doocy. Not for the right. Once they fully embraced "alternative facts" actual facts weren't a problem for them anymore. Welcome to the post-truth society.
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Post by andydp on Mar 8, 2022 17:49:09 GMT
I am reminded of an old vaudeville gag where this person keeps hitting his head against the wall. A person comes to him and asks: "Why do you keep hitting your head against the wall ?" The answer: "It feels good when I stop." Douchey must like it when Psaki stops hammering him. I'm not a news person, but shouldn't Douchey do some research before asking "wannabe gotha" questions ?
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 8, 2022 18:15:23 GMT
I am reminded of an old vaudeville gag where this person keeps hitting his head against the wall. A person comes to him and asks: "Why do you keep hitting your head against the wall ?" The answer: "It feels good when I stop." Douchey must like it when Psaki stops hammering him. I'm not a news person, but shouldn't Douchey do some research before asking "wannabe gotha" questions ? H*%% no! He just wants to provoke some kind of ill tempered response so it can be shown on endless repeat on Faux. In the absence of that happening her answers will be characterized as tap dancing around the question, filled with irrelevancies. It works because every viewer knows that Dems are weak and responsible for high gas prices.
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Post by AnBr on Mar 9, 2022 3:26:27 GMT
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Post by LFC on Mar 15, 2022 20:48:55 GMT
Biden's pick for the Federal Reserve Board withdrew after Republican went full metal anti-democracy and Manchin joined them. Once again for Manchin it's all about protecting his own personal portfolio. I soooo loathe that corrupt clown.
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Post by LFC on Mar 31, 2022 21:05:46 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 1, 2022 19:02:38 GMT
Jen Psaki may be going to MSNBC.
To quote Samuel Jackson in Hitman's Bodyguard: "Damn! I liked her. She's spunky."
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 1, 2022 20:49:11 GMT
Jen Psaki may be going to MSNBC.
To quote Samuel Jackson in Hitman's Bodyguard: "Damn! I liked her. She's spunky."
Press sec'y to the President is a burnout job, especially in the last 15 years. She is very good at it but its probably because of hours and hours of prep time.
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Post by LFC on Apr 21, 2022 18:50:23 GMT
Josh Marshall notes that Biden isn't fighting, which is sadly so typical of Democrats. The result is that people are getting their opinions pushed by the other side.
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