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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 14:57:37 GMT
Things continue to move fast in Kherson. BTW "right bank" means the western bank. Russian troops there are f***ed. Putin may soon be dealing with a massive loss of men and equipment plus Crimea becomes more and more vulnerable.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 15:01:30 GMT
Once again Russian troops look like they're going to be encircled and slaughtered all due to Vladimir Putin's orders that nobody retreats. He's a regular master of military strategy. So much for Putin as an "evil genius." Like Trump he is simply a psychopath who doesn't believe in any rules applying to him. This war shows he'd actually pretty dumb.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 15:04:02 GMT
This map shows where many of Russia's forces are and how they're being encircled. It's starting to feel like and endless loop tape and Putin just can't up with any response other than "fight to the death!"
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 15:11:07 GMT
These are very rough translations but the gist is that it sounds like Russia's special forces are withdrawing from positions in Kherson and taking their heavy equipment with them. There seems to be a lot of chatter that the whole Russian situation is one of confusion, chaos, and panic.
The big question is, where the hell are they going to go with their tanks? The bridges are all either completely blown or there may be one or two badly damaged bridges that would allow men to escape but probably not heavy equipment, at least not all in one convoy. If the heavy equipment is backed up at the bridges the Ukrainians will bomb the shit out of the head of the column and that will be that. I suspect Russia is days from men simply sprinting across any semi-intact bridge, if they can find one, or swimming for it. Or dying.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 15:20:19 GMT
There seems to be multiple analyst opinions that the Russian Army may be on the verge of collapse. They are bearing crushing defeats, they are burning through heavy equipment at a massive rate, their supply lines are even worse off with the fall of Lyman and they were already in terrible shape, they don't have the industrial capacity to replace what they're losing from tanks to blankets, Putin continues to control operations and fail, and conscription has been a complete cluster-f***. H.R. McMaster has the same opinion.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 16:20:57 GMT
Things sounds like they're still deteriorating quickly in the north as well.
So far some of the best early intel about conditions on the ground seems to be coming from Russian soldiers on Telegram. The fact that I just typed that feels ... insane.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 16:22:56 GMT
These are very rough translations but the gist is that it sounds like Russia's special forces are withdrawing from positions in Kherson and taking their heavy equipment with them. There seems to be a lot of chatter that the whole Russian situation is one of confusion, chaos, and panic.
The big question is, where the hell are they going to go with their tanks? The bridges are all either completely blown or there may be one or two badly damaged bridges that would allow men to escape but probably not heavy equipment, at least not all in one convoy. If the heavy equipment is backed up at the bridges the Ukrainians will bomb the shit out of the head of the column and that will be that. I suspect Russia is days from men simply sprinting across any semi-intact bridge, if they can find one, or swimming for it. Or dying.
A better translation from a TPM subscriber who speaks the language.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 19:44:49 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if our investment in Ukraine will be worth it, at least in part, just for all of the delicious access the U.S. getting to all sorts of weapons systems. We've already seen that a number of top tech items from Russia have been captured intact but now the U.S. will be getting in depth looks at Iranian drone technology. It's interesting that Iran labels everything in English. One TPM commenter guessed it might be for the export market.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 20:25:14 GMT
Ukrainian troops are entering Borova. Look at this map I posted yesterday to see the northern progress along the Oskil River and remember this is where a number of Russian troops decided to create a defensive line. Ukraine is still pushing down from Kupyansk to the north and up from multiple points in the south. Their only real escape route is one road to Svatove and that's increasingly at risk. If they don't get out of Dodge soon it's going to be déjà vu all over again.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 22:21:09 GMT
More updates on the front. This is from the Oskil River / Lyman areas. It won't be referred to as the Lyman area for long. If you look at the blue arrow second to the bottom it shows the front is now in Dibrova, about 14 miles east of Lyman. Basically the northern front is driving hard towards and even into Luhansk Oblast or, as Putin likes to call it, Russia.
Meanwhile down in Kherson there appears to be a lot of chatter that the Russians have abandoned Dudchany. The squeeze is on. If the report of tanks leaving Kherson city are true then who knows where these forces will end up clashing. I'd also be interested to know exactly how many Russian troops are looking to get trapped in that northern pocket.
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Post by indy on Oct 3, 2022 22:23:07 GMT
[SHIT! SOMEHOW I EDITED INDY'S POST (ADMIN PRIVILEGES ALLOWED IT) INSTEAD OF REPLYING. SINCEREST APOLOGIES!] LOL. Don't worry about it; I have nearly done the same thing multiple times. After the third or fourth near miss, I considered posting a preemptive apology because I was certain it would happen at some point.
They should make the 'Edit' button red if you are not the author.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 22:25:42 GMT
More on the reported fall of Dudchany.
As one post pointed out, if that's true it only lasted two days. Ukraine is pushing Russia so hard and fast that they have no time to erect reasonably effective defenses.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 22:51:06 GMT
With all the losses that Russia is taking in both the north and south it's painfully obvious that there's no help coming. Russia simply doesn't have the bodies available and/or the means to move them. They're on their own.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 22:59:11 GMT
FFS, I wish billionaires would learn their f***ing limits. Elon Musk is now proposing a peace plan. It sure sounds like a pretty shitty deal for Ukraine where they get to both definitely give up territory (Crimea), risk giving up all 4 annexed oblasts (after "elections"), and promise not to join with allies that can help them protect themselves. Other than the risking a vote by the 4 oblasts to stay in Ukraine Russia gives up nothing. What a deal!
The reactions coming from Russia and Ukraine differ.
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Post by LFC on Oct 3, 2022 23:00:15 GMT
Huh? Maybe AndyP can translate.
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Post by andydp on Oct 4, 2022 1:44:24 GMT
Huh? Maybe AndyP can translate. Not even going to try. They’re using Russian graphics for one. Some decent commentary on the Twitter thread.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 15:29:40 GMT
Ukraine continues to run out-think Russian military leadership. Russia had no idea what enemy they were making.
As they've admitted Russia can't keep track of the borders they claim to have annexed. How the hell are they going to tell the difference between their troops and their enemy's troops without clear markings?
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 15:33:44 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 15:35:25 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 16:37:44 GMT
Equipment destruction update: Date Vehicles Tanks Since 2/24 3/18: 1574 244 3 weeks 3/25: 1831 (+257) 289 (+45) 4 weeks 4/01: 2175 (+344) 359 (+80) 5 weeks 4/07: 2614 (+439) 449 (+90) 6 weeks 4/14: 2885 (+271) 505 (+56) 7 weeks 4/21: 3068 (+183) 528 (+23) 8 weeks 4/28: 3248 (+180) 580 (+52) 9 weeks 5/05: 3417 (+169) 605 (+25) 10 weeks 5/12: 3623 (+206) 664 (+59) 11 weeks 5/19: 3675 (+52) 671 (+4) 12 weeks 5/27: 4150 (+475) 733 (+62) 13 weeks 6/02: 4207 (+57) 747 (+14) 14 weeks 6/09: 4273 (+66) 762 (+15) 15 weeks -- 7/05: 4573 (+200) 830 (+68) 19 weeks 7/12: 4683 (+110) 865 (+35) 20 weeks 7/19: 4738 (+45) 869 (+4) 21 weeks 7/26: 4822 (+84) 887 (+18) 22 weeks 8/02: 5038 (+216) 922 (+35) 23 weeks 8/09: 5103 (+65) 930 (+8) 24 weeks 8/16: 5200 (+97) 952 (+22) 25 weeks 8/23: 5321 (+121) 970 (+18) 26 weeks 8/30: 5362 (+41) 988 (+18) 27 weeks 9/07: 5554 (+192) 1022 (+34) 28 weeks (one day late) 9/13: 5907 (+353) 1087 (+65) 29 weeks 9/20: 6202 (+295) 1155 (+68) 30 weeks 9/27: 6395 (+193) 1182 (+27) 31 weeks 10/04: 6684 (+289) 1250 (+68) 32 weeks
Since August 30, maybe a week before Ukraine starting making major moves up north, Russia lost over 260 tanks and over 1,500 pieces of heavy equipment. And those are just the confirmed numbers.
I really wish I was tracking captured equipment all along. That number would be interesting to watch over time.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 19:26:00 GMT
Four hours? This is a rout. Maybe they're going to try to make a combined defensive stand somewhere right now they're just in outright retreat.
This is a good illustration. The Russians have abandoned their entire norther position. That white area to the northeast is where Ukraine has to catch up to them. Looking along the Dnipro River Ukrain has gained 7-10 miles depending upon whose reports you believe, but 7 seems like the minimu.
Russian forces may be trying to regroup along the Dnipro in Mylove, just SW of the Ukrainian line in the above map. Yeah, good luck with that.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 19:38:49 GMT
A few general notes from the Institute for the Study of War. First, the current victories are over the best that Russia has ... had. These aren't recent conscripts slammed in as cannon fodder.
Second, Putin appears to be playing the blame game to the hilt.
Scapegoating military leaders is a dangerous game in Russia. If you pick off a few you'll likely be OK but if it goes too far and the remaining leaders feel vulnerable then, well, they actually have the troops.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 19:42:45 GMT
The Russian view on why their defense of Kherson is failing. No mention of the fact that Russia allowed the troops to be trapped over a month ago and have their supply lines beaten to shit ever since.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 19:49:27 GMT
If that's true, it tells us two things. One, at least part of the Russian Army is smartening up and using strategic retreat to prevent from getting obliterated. And two, looking at an earlier map and see the position of the Inhulets River, their desire to hold onto the city of Kherson is doomed.
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2022 20:16:50 GMT
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