jackd
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Post by jackd on Apr 13, 2022 20:30:40 GMT
See which way the people ae moving and then hurry to get in front of them.
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Post by indy on Apr 13, 2022 21:03:14 GMT
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 0:35:19 GMT
So the Russian Ministry of Defense has confirmed the ship the was hit and that it sustained serious damage, including munitions that exploded. The crew was evacuated and likely the ship is lost. That's what, a several hundred million dollar, possibly billion dollar loss? Also, since Turkey has closed the Black sea to Russian war ships, they won't be replacing it any time soon.
To put that in perspective, Russia has lost about 500 tanks so far, each cost about 1 million on average maybe a bit more. This loss equals the entire loss of tanks.
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 1:12:07 GMT
It's also worth noting that this ship probably had the best defensive capabilities of any ship in the Black Sea fleet, not only defending itself but providing cover for other less capable ships. It's loss would make the rest of the fleet more vulnerable to further attacks.
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andydp
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Ukraine
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Post by andydp on Apr 14, 2022 1:45:21 GMT
It's also worth noting that this ship probably had the best defensive capabilities of any ship in the Black Sea fleet, not only defending itself but providing cover for other less capable ships. It's loss would make the rest of the fleet more vulnerable to further attacks. Excellent point. Not a navy type but this ship would have provided “cover” for the rest of the fleet.
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Post by LFC on Apr 14, 2022 13:17:50 GMT
Equipment destruction update: 3/18 : 1574 (244) - start -- 3/25 : 1831 (289) - 7 days 4/01 : 2175 (359) - 14 days 4/07 : 2614 (449) - 21 days 4/14 : 2885 (505) - 28 days
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 14:16:12 GMT
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 16:55:37 GMT
LOL. The money intended for bribes was apparently embezzled. There is something just...oh so Russian about it.
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Post by LFC on Apr 14, 2022 19:02:56 GMT
They are literally slaughtering people in vehicles marked "Children." I don't know how much of this is Putin's cruelty and how much of it's coming from undisciplined troops under weak commanders who are lashing out in frustration but either way these are war crimes.
EDIT: Per the comments this is actually in Russian to make sure they understand.
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Post by LFC on Apr 14, 2022 19:14:35 GMT
Perhaps this is just normal troops bitching, as Andy noted is common, but there are some pretty specific complaints that align well with the top to bottom kleptocracy that is Russia. Two state that things sent from home just get stolen.
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 19:21:37 GMT
On one hand, this is pretty hard to believe. They've lost half their BTGs? On the other hand, it does match up with, for example, the 500 tanks that have been verified as lost because that number is certainly low because only visible evidence is being used. Also, the U.S. has been pretty circumspect in throwing around numbers. Pretty stunning if true.
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Post by indy on Apr 14, 2022 20:49:55 GMT
LOL again. "Damage from a storm" sinks a Russian cruiser. "Moskva" means Moscow of course. The only better symbolic name would have been if it's name were "Putin".
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Post by LFC on Apr 15, 2022 15:00:49 GMT
Epic troll, I guess both figuratively and literally.
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Post by LFC on Apr 15, 2022 15:03:03 GMT
Facial recognition technology is being used to wage a brutal propaganda campaign against Russia. This is ... harsh.
If they've managed to find and scan 8,600 dead soldiers then how many have actually died?
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andydp
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Post by andydp on Apr 15, 2022 15:15:37 GMT
Hmmmm, where have we seen this before in Russian history ? Troops led by incompetents Insufficient supplies Angry soldiers Authoritarian ruler being lied to More conscripts being "fed" to the machine All Putin needs now is a "special" train from Berlin, a deranged monk (may have that already), an emerging competitor Ref "deranged monk" scenario: Trump had Bannon and Flynn. Vlad has this guy. A Russian philosopher known as 'Putin's brain' said Russia's retreat from Kyiv was only 'temporary'Earlier this month, the Russian army retreated from Ukraine's capital city Kyiv. A Russian philosopher known for his influence in the Kremlin said the retreat was only "temporary." "We cannot lose this war," he said. "Otherwise, the whole world will turn into a large fire."
An ultranationalist philosopher dubbed "Putin's brain" for his influence on the Russian leader said the country's retreat from the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv was a "temporary situation." www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/russian-philosopher-known-putins-brain-030236272.html
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Post by AnBr on Apr 16, 2022 0:58:51 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 17, 2022 14:35:43 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 18, 2022 15:44:39 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 18, 2022 15:52:14 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 19, 2022 15:45:24 GMT
More Russian war crimes. It's "almost" like that's their entire strategy and judging from history it's kinda' their thing.
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Post by LFC on Apr 19, 2022 18:08:30 GMT
Scott Adams is clearly mentally ill but he can still be funny.
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Post by LFC on Apr 19, 2022 18:55:18 GMT
Equipment destruction update: 3/18 : 1574 (244) - start -- 3/25 : 1831 (289) - 7 days 4/01 : 2175 (359) - 14 days 4/07 : 2614 (449) - 21 days 4/14 : 2885 (505) - 28 days -- 4/19 : 2995 (519) - 33 days
If this tweet is correct then Russia has lost 25% of its military capacity since Feb. 24, not even two full months. That means its military capabilities are still powerful but good gawd, that's a massive cost in soldiers and equipment.
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andydp
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Post by andydp on Apr 19, 2022 19:37:37 GMT
Equipment destruction update: 3/18 : 1574 (244) - start -- 3/25 : 1831 (289) - 7 days 4/01 : 2175 (359) - 14 days 4/07 : 2614 (449) - 21 days 4/14 : 2885 (505) - 28 days -- 4/19 : 2995 (519) - 33 days
If this tweet is correct then Russia has lost 25% of its military capacity since Feb. 24, not even two full months. That means its military capabilities are still powerful but good gawd, that's a massive cost in soldiers and equipment.
25% loss of front line units, equipment and personnel is not sustainable in any context. Don't forget the losses are of front line units, the ones that do the fighting. They may still have 75%, but it may be mostly support troops. Equipment losses may be a good indicator how desperate they get. If we start seeing more Soviet Union tanks and equipment, then it can be assumed they're using their "mothballed" equipment to make up the losses.
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Post by LFC on Apr 20, 2022 14:48:28 GMT
Here's another story of the problems and lack of discipline among the Russian troops. The fact that Chechens are involved might not go over well with the rank and file. If this is how bad things have gotten in two months then will the Russian Army be capable of doing more than shelling, firing missiles, and holding limited territory with through troop massing? It seems like the slaughter of innocent civilians is still well within their capabilities.
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Post by LFC on Apr 20, 2022 15:19:17 GMT
Chernobyl continues to be a shit-show thanks to the Russians. Here's a more complete summary than I've seen before but the mining of the area and setting of forest fires are particularly awful.
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