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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 21, 2021 20:34:31 GMT
The Speaker accepted 3 of the 5 Republicans suggested by Minority Leader McCarthy. Guess who she rejected? Gym Jordan and Jim Banks from Indiana. She kept the other three who all voted to reject the electoral votes of some states. McCarthy then withdrew all 5 names. I guess he couldn't find a euphemism for the C word to work into his statement. Seriously, he thought those two would be acceptable? Now both parties can condemn the other party for being biased and result oriented in their respective committees.
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Post by LFC on Jul 21, 2021 20:36:59 GMT
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 21, 2021 23:41:31 GMT
Wasn't Louie Gohmert or Paul Gozar available? How about Matt Gaetz or MTG? There's no shortage of clowns in the clown car.
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Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 0:12:16 GMT
Wasn't Louie Gohmert or Paul Gozar available? How about Matt Gaetz or MTG? There's no shortage of clowns in the clown car. Gohmert is too dumb to be used effectively. Gosar is about as dumb. Gaetz is seriously facing potential prosecution. MTG is much like Gohmert in being dumb but is also a massive attention whore who would f*** up the messaging with some QAnon talking points. You may not remember but MTG asked to be named to the committee which is funny since she was thrown off all of the other ones.
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 22, 2021 0:27:19 GMT
Wasn't Louie Gohmert or Paul Gozar available? How about Matt Gaetz or MTG? There's no shortage of clowns in the clown car. Gohmert is too dumb to be used effectively. Gosar is about as dumb. Gaetz is seriously facing potential prosecution. MTG is much like Gohmert in being dumb but is also a massive attention whore who would f*** up the messaging with some QAnon talking points. You may not remember but MTG asked to be named to the committee which is funny since she was thrown off all of the other ones. That's why I was wondering if Pelosi could invite them without McCarthy's approval. It seems most of these F-ups are egotistical enough to defy leadership, with their Dumpster-like addiction to self-aggrandizing. Give them enough rope to keep demonstrating the worthlessness of GOP politicians. The base may love it, but the suburban swing voters will get even more disgusted with the party.
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Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 13:29:03 GMT
TPM called out the MSM, yet again, for it's fail on covering Pelosi's move. The fact is that it was the best of 3 available. The other two were to allow the investigation to devolve into yet another Republican clown show or to fold the committee.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 22, 2021 15:23:28 GMT
I didn't agree with Cheney on much of anything, but she has her head screwed on correctly on 1/6 and on McCarthy.
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Post by Traveler on Jul 22, 2021 15:25:19 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 16:24:59 GMT
A CNN analyst covers the current political tantrum. They seem to start out in reality.
But then the both-sideism crops up. Nobody who has followed Republican politics for the last decade plus and has more than 3 firing neurons could write this.
They then shift back to reality but the thought that allowing Banks and especially Jordan to throw bombs would make the committee more "bipartisan" or "credible" would have been naive 10 years ago. Today it's political flat eartherism.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 22, 2021 18:10:22 GMT
Oh please Pelosi could have moved quickly. There was an impeachment investigation going on and DOJ was combing videos looking for individuals. There was plenty going on at the time. And as time went on it was clear that something beyond individual investigations and charges are needed to get the big picture of what all was planned prior to the day of.
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Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 19:55:34 GMT
Oh please Pelosi could have moved quickly. There was an impeachment investigation going on and DOJ was combing videos looking for individuals. There was plenty going on at the time. And as time went on it was clear that something beyond individual investigations and charges are needed to get the big picture of what all was planned prior to the day of. Back then it was Pelosi can't move too soon because it could interfere with FBI investigations. Now she should have moved sooner. Behold the power of 20-20 hindsight.
And while we're on the subject of moving sooner the Republicans dragged things out and then torpedoed the independent investigation. Let's look at the timeline, shall we? May 28: Senate Republicans torpedoed the independent investigation. June 24: Pelosi announced that the House Select Committee would be formed less than a month later.
July 1: Pelosi names committee Democrats.
July 1: McCarthy threatens his caucus if they agree to be on the committee. July 13: McCarthy tells Faux News that he hasn't decided if he's going to name anybody.
July 21: McCarthy names his nominees and includes in two blatant bomb throwers.
July 22: Pelosi tells him to f*** off.
But yeah, it's Nancy's fault that she didn't move sooner. [sigh] The MSM really is brimming with idiots.
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Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 21:00:39 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 26, 2021 18:04:15 GMT
Kinzinger is in.
No shock but House Republicans are already looking at how to attack the "traitors" who refuse to defend the insurrection. Meanwhile Congressional Republicans, including Pat Toomey, continue to fall in line.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 26, 2021 18:29:13 GMT
The Republicans seem to desperately want to erase the events of 1/6 from memory. They want to move on to filibustering Biden initiatives in the Senate and kneecapping them in the House. But House Democrats won't let that happen.
Suggesting that this is just another witch hunt like the impeachments is the best they can do to expunge the true import of the 1/6 insurrection. So they'll howl that Cheney and anybody with R behind their names are traitors and that the Democrats are not following "the rules."
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 26, 2021 18:39:12 GMT
....that the Democrats are not following "the rules." <TheRules> Republicans MUST be in power at all times. </TheRules>
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Post by LFC on Jul 27, 2021 0:39:48 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 27, 2021 0:41:11 GMT
TPM warns us to brace for Republican "counter programming" i.e. propaganda i.e. bald-faced lies ( paywalled).
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 27, 2021 16:06:32 GMT
Really that's the best McCarthy can do to SQUIRREL the situation? Send out the 4 G's to flap their jaws? Not even use Double J Jim Jordan?
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Post by jackd on Jul 27, 2021 17:44:58 GMT
They've got nothing to talk about; might as well send in the clowns.
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Post by MSheridan on Jul 28, 2021 15:27:21 GMT
The aphorism is old enough (versions of it go back more than a century) I cannot present it as even slightly fresh insight, but: Thus, the GOP has a surfeit of table-pounders for a very good reason. They have knowingly and quite deliberately placed themselves in opposition to facts and the law. All that is left them is to play to the jury and abuse the opposing attorneys.
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 28, 2021 15:37:08 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 28, 2021 16:29:32 GMT
I wish he had named names. We can case many, of course, but I want the list, the clips, and I want them aired repeatedly and these enemies of America to be called out for what they are. They ARE a major part of the story of American fascism.
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Post by LFC on Jul 28, 2021 16:42:28 GMT
Here is TPM's live blogging of yesterday and here are a few snippets from it. It's not wonder the Republicans, after going full metal fascist to downplay and outright defend treason, are doing anything they can to make it go away. Strap in because the committee is charging hard right out of the gate.
I'd love to see this spun as "I'm not a racist but..."
And then there's this on why they didn't shoot.
And this sums up the rest of the House Republicans.
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Post by LFC on Jul 28, 2021 16:43:28 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 28, 2021 16:49:24 GMT
The House Republican Kooky, Krazy Kaucus tried to provide propaganda to counter the truth pouring out of the testimony on Capitol Hill. They failed miserably.
Traitor Kevin McCarthy is still pushing the "it was Pelosi's fault" trope.
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