Abortion & Contraception Rights Under Attack

[goldenvalley]

Jul 15, 2022 15:50:35 GMT LFC said:

With a 10-year old rape victim being forced to get an abortion in another state could Republicans be any more vile? That's rhetorical because of course they can!

Indiana’s Republican attorney general said on Wednesday that his office planned to investigate the Indiana doctor who helped a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to have an abortion.

Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indianapolis, has told multiple outlets that she provided care to the 10-year-old after a child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted her. The child was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy, Bernard said. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last month, a wave of state-level abortion restrictions took effect, including in Ohio, a state that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for rape or incest. Abortion in Indiana is banned after 22 weeks of pregnancy, with some exceptions for medical emergencies.

“We’re gathering the evidence as we speak, and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at her licensure if she failed to report. And in Indiana it’s a crime … to intentionally not report,” state Attorney General Todd Rokita said on Fox News on Wednesday night. “This is a child, and there’s a strong public interest in understanding if someone under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 or really any woman is having abortion in our state. And then if a child is being sexually abused, of course parents need to know. Authorities need to know. Public policy experts need to know.”

After all this public performance art designed to act as intimidation to other doctors it turns out the report was filed and file properly. Now they're screeching that the rapist's age might be wrong. They'll do anything ... ANYTHING ... to avoid the real issue in this case including destroying the career of a doctor for doing something completely legal but politically inconvenient. The Weimar Republicans goose step on.

None of this fits in with their view of the people who get abortions (slutty sluts and naughty girls) so they can't/won't allow brutal reality into their heads.  

I see this with parental notification of abortion proposals.  Never would the antiabortion people countenance the idea the parent or the parent's boyfriend or other family member might be the reason the child was pregnant.  They'd rather talk about how the schools can't give students so much as a Tylenol without parental permission.

ETA On the other hand the antiabortion wing has no problem with imaging that hordes of women will seek abortion at 33+ weeks for no other reason than they just want to not have a baby.  

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A local Faux outlet found out that the paperwork had been filed properly through a basic public records request.

After Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita threatened to go after the license of an Indiana physician who provided an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio, documents obtained by FOX59 through a public record request proved the physician not only filed a terminated pregnancy report but filed the report within the required timeframe.

The terminated pregnancy report, obtained by FOX59’s Angela Ganote, shows that Caitlin Bernard, an Indiana obstetrician-gynecologist, reported the abortion on July 2, two days after the abortion was performed and within the three days required for terminations to be reported to the Department of Child Service and the Indiana Department of Health.

In the report, Bernard also indicated that the child suffered abuse.

The dirtbag AG has set himself up pretty well for a lawsuit. Bold mine. He had better be able to back that shit up. I doubt it since he "couldn't" find the paperwork that was so easy to access.

Rokita suggested that the doctor, Dr. Caitlin Bernard, had failed to file mandated reports with the state about the abuse and the abortion. At least, Rokita claimed, he could find no evidence for any reports. Bernard is an “abortion activist acting as a doctor with a history of failing to report,” Rokita told Fox News on Wednesday. “We’re gathering the information, we’re gathering the evidence as we speak and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at [Bernard’s] licensure, if she failed to report. In Indiana it’s a crime for … to intentionally not report.”

Now the doctor is considering lawsuits against the Indiana AG, who continues to slander her by saying the "investigation" remains open, and anybody else who did the same.

Now Bernard is considering legal action against Rokita and other people who smeared her, the doctor’s lawyer said in a statement.

EDIT: Gym Jordan tweeted out the lie and then deleted his tweet. He's now laying low with no statement or apology about his smearing of an innocent doctor. What a shock.

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The red states are doing everything in their power to keep women from getting abortions where it is legal. The abortion pill may make a lot of this ineffective though, as we've seen with their vigilante laws, they're more than willing to do ANYTHING to intimidate and harass people no matter how innocents might get caught up.

Red states are rushing to seal their borders to abortions, to make themselves bastions where the procedure is completely inaccessible.

Arizona, Arkansas and Texas banned the mailing of abortion pills even before the Dobbs decision came down last month. In 2021, Texas made its ban even more draconian, adding fines of up to $10,000 and jail time for anyone who prescribes abortion pills through telehealth or the mail.

“This piece is really important for this period but also moving into the future, when we see even after [Roe v. Wade] we have organizations and individuals advertising that they will mail abortion-inducing drugs,” the legislative director of Texas Right to Life said at the time.

Other states, like Indiana, have put gestational limits on when the pills can be used. And others, including Kentucky and South Dakota, have tried to enact mail or telehealth abortion pill bans, but have been waylaid by court action.

Medical abortions account for over half of all U.S. abortions. The Biden administration warned pharmacies this week that they risk violating federal law if they refuse to fill prescriptions for abortion pills, and Attorney General Merrick Garland has said that states may not ban mifepristone, one of the pills, based on disagreements with the Food and Drug Administration’s assessment that the drug is safe and effective. (Anti-abortion activists often falsely smear abortion drugs as dangerous.)

Activists and Republican lawmakers alike are flirting with the idea of going a step further and targeting interstate travel for reproductive care, perhaps through state-level legislation penalizing those who travel with a pregnant woman, or who provide care to patients — including pills — who live in places where abortion is illegal.

But even while anti-abortion figures try to make the procedure extinct, demand for the abortion pill — usually two drugs, mifepristone and misoprostol — is skyrocketing.

[AnBr]

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TPM linked to two powerful articles on the realities of the anti-abortion movement. The first shows how quickly the real world cases are stacking up now that the issue is no longer abstract. Democrats and abortion rights proponents need to be pushing these realities over and over leading up to every election.

Reproductive rights advocates have long warned that women would die if abortion were banned again—that children would be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies. I’ve been covering abortion rights for over a decade, and I expected these horrifying, dystopian stories to trickle out over the next six months to maybe a year, forcing people to acknowledge a reality that had long been just hypothetical.

Instead, the stories have sprayed out like a firehose: A 10-year-old rape survivor had to travel to another state to get safe abortion care, and politicians immediately went after the doctor who helped her; a Texas hospital let a woman with an ectopic pregnancy bleed until she almost died to avoid getting sued; Idaho Republicans overwhelmingly voted to let women die before giving them health care. The dystopia is upon us, and it arrived faster than anyone expected.

Here are the most blatant cases but the article brings up multiple other issues.

Women are being threatened with death

Women suffering from life-threatening ectopic pregnancies are no longer getting the immediate care they require. Per the Washington Post:

A woman with a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy sought emergency care at the University of Michigan Hospital after a doctor in her home state worried that the presence of a fetal heartbeat meant treating her might run afoul of new restrictions on abortion.

At one Kansas City, Mo., hospital, administrators temporarily required “pharmacist approval” before dispensing medications used to stop postpartum hemorrhages, because they can also be also used for abortions.

And in Wisconsin, a woman bled for more than 10 days from an incomplete miscarriage after emergency room staff would not remove the fetal tissue amid a confusing legal landscape that has roiled obstetric care.

Then in Texas, a hospital refused to save a woman’s life until her ectopic pregnancy ruptured, because the fetus still had a heartbeat. Texas, meanwhile has sued the Biden administration for the right to let pregnant people die rather than save them in these situations, and Idaho Republicans voted overwhelmingly this weekend to reject a “life of the mother” exception from its abortion platform.

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Then there's this article:

The False Piety of the Anti-Abortion Movement

They preached about a moral crisis and were unprepared for what they unleashed.

This one hits home since my wife was on this drug as a treatment for over a year.

Even people who are not pregnant are experiencing the debilitating effects of a nation without Roe: The Los Angeles Times has reported that people with autoimmune disorders have been denied methotrexate, a common and effective drug, because there is a chance it could cause miscarriage.

In summation the author makes the point that this is a "morally unserious movement." They've literally had decades to come to grips with a variety of more morally vague situations and appear to have spent little or no time at all even considering them.

A world without the right to abortion is a world filled with suffering. Abortion opponents are uniquely unprepared for the reality they created. The first major ethical dilemma to appear post-Roe, the case of the Ohio girl, has scattered them. They can’t decide if the story is a hoax or if the abortion is an abortion at all. Still others, like Bopp, affirm the innate cruelty of the anti-choice position. Such indecision insults the people they would force to remain pregnant; it is the mark, too, of a morally unserious movement. Abortion opponents have had decades to anticipate the “hardest cases” they would produce. Now the post-Roe era shows them to be fantasists at best and liars at worst. Not only is there no material support forthcoming in the states most likely to ban abortion, but the mere end of Roe did not transform unwanted pregnancy into a blessing for mothers. It more closely resembles a punishment. After warning for years of a great moral crisis, abortion opponents inflict their own on the world. They cannot answer the very questions they pose. To paraphrase Schaeffer, why is a little girl worth saving? Why is she worth the trouble? Because she is not an abstraction. She is not potential but a person. She is real.

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More on intentionally vague abortion laws and penalties impacting others' access to healthcare. When abortion is the only lens you use then anybody else impacted is just SOL.

Methotrexate is a fairly common drug that treats a wide range of medical conditions. I take it to help control an autoimmune disorder. So do about 60 percent of rheumatoid arthritis patients. It is used to treat some cancers, such as non-Hodgkin lymphoma. It also has at least one other important medical use.

The drug is the most common pharmaceutical treatment for ectopic pregnancies, a life-threatening medical condition where a fertilized egg implants somewhere other than the uterus — typically a fallopian tube. If allowed to develop, this egg can eventually cause a rupture and massive internal bleeding. Methotrexate prevents embryonic cell growth, eventually terminating an ectopic pregnancy.

And so many patients who take methotrexate say they have become the latest victims of the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization — the decision overruling Roe v. Wade.

It’s unclear how widespread this phenomenon is, though the problem is serious enough that the Arthritis Foundation put out a statement warning that “arthritis patients who rely on methotrexate are reporting difficulty accessing it,” and that “at least one state — Texas — allows pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions for misoprostol and methotrexate, which together can be used for medical abortions.”

In some cases, pharmacists are reportedly reluctant to fill methotrexate prescriptions in states where abortion is illegal, and doctors are similarly reluctant to prescribe it. In other cases, pharmacists may refuse to fill valid methotrexate prescriptions because they personally object to abortion, even in states where the procedure remains legal.

The phenomenon of patients struggling to obtain therapeutic drugs that can be used in abortion care appears to be severe enough that, on Wednesday, President Joe Biden’s administration released a four-page “Guidance to Nation’s Retail Pharmacies.” It informed them that federal laws prohibiting discrimination on the basis of disability or pregnancy may require pharmacists to fill prescriptions for drugs like methotrexate. (The question of whether a particular denial by a particular pharmacist violates federal law will depend on the specifics of the case.)

Ultimately, however, laws are only as good as the courts that interpret them. And disputes over whether states can ban mifepristone, or whether pharmacists can simply refuse to dispense certain drugs, are likely to be resolved by the same justices who gave us Dobbs.

At best, that means a lot of confusion for patients until the courts sort these issues out. And, given this Court’s hostility toward abortions and sympathy for religious conservatives, it is likely that many patients will be denied prescription drugs.

The current insanity and grayness concerning abortion is by design. The vigilante law in Texass was just one example but it's all designed to place providers in a state of fear and turmoil.

[jackd]

I suspect some of the drug issues will be "solved" for patients by mail order from locations that do not restrict sales. This method has been used for years to beat American prices through Canadian pharmacies.

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Another horror story, this one due to the Texass vigilante law. I suspect they will be endless.

CNN on Monday profiled a mother in Texas who went through what the network described as a "nightmare" after being denied treatment after suffering a miscarriage because her doctor feared being sued under Texas's anti-abortion law.

In an interview with CNN, Texas mom Marlena Stell explained that her suffered a miscarriage after becoming pregnant last year, but that her doctor would not perform an operation to remove the dead fetus from her body because they could be targeted by anti-abortion activists who have been empowered by a law passed last year that allows ordinary citizens to sue anyone who helps in delivering an abortion.

Stell said the fetus stuck inside her was causing her increasing pain to the point where she had difficulty walking. She eventually found a doctor willing to perform the procedure to remove it, but only after undergoing yet another ultrasound to ensure that the fetus was actually dead.

Stell also told CNN that she does not want to try to have another child so long as she's living in Texas.

"I'm worried about getting infected, have something happen to me and then my daughter is left without her mom," she said of the prospect of suffering another miscarriage that would not be treated.

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Close call. How long before Texass Republicans murder somebody? The Christian nationalists won't mind. They'll just tell us how it's God's Will (tm).

A doctor in Texas says that one of her miscarrying patients recently suffered gravely due to restrictions placed on medical professionals by the Lone Star State's abortion laws.

In an interview with the Associated Press, San Antonio-based Dr. Jessian Munoz revealed that a patient recently came to him while she was miscarrying and was developing what the AP describes as "a dangerous womb infection."

Even though the fetus had no chance of survival, Munoz was legally barred from trying to remove it until no heartbeat could be detected, which meant the patient had to suffer for hours while she "lost multiple liters of blood" and had to be put on a breathing machine.

“We physically watched her get sicker and sicker and sicker," said Munoz, who said that they only moved to operate on the patient a full day later than they should have, as that is how long it took for no fetal heartbeat to be detected.

Munoz also told the AP that this is not how he used to treat women with this condition before the Supreme Court overturned decades of precedent earlier this year by ending the nationwide right to have an abortion.

"It was like, the mom’s life is in danger, we must evacuate the uterus by whatever means that may be,” he explained. “Whether it’s surgical or medical — that’s the treatment... the art of medicine is lost and actually has been replaced by fear."

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Ron DeSatanist seems to be ducking the abortion issue. How cowardly of him.

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Marco Rubio is going all in on fertilized eggs being "persons." Sure it's just political posturing at the moment but it has plenty of Christianist support. It would also completely destroy IVF and leave the fate of frozen embryos in limbo.

U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is sponsoring legislation that would require anyone whose sperm is used to fertilize an egg to begin paying child support from the moment of conception, upon the mother's request.

The Florida Republican Senator's bill also advances the GOP goal of legally claiming that life begins at conception, and that fertilized eggs are "persons" with all the rights of a human being.

“We should do everything we can to support American mothers and their children. This bill would allow expecting mothers to prepare and support their babies before they are born.” Sen. Rubio said in a statement.

"The bill itself makes a specific change to current federal regulations regarding child support," WFLA reports. "Under the proposed legislation, the government would require that states 'establish and enforce child support obligations of the biological father of an unborn child (and subsequent to the birth of the child) to the mother of such child' at the mother’s request."

But what kind of Republican would he be if he wasn't a rank hypocrite?

Meanwhile, Senator Rubio's history of voting against children tells a different story.

In 2012, after claiming he would draft legislation similar to the DREAM Act to protect those he called "blameless" children, and promised to include many GOP sponsors, the Florida Republican Senator filed a bill that excluded low-income immigrant families with undocumented parents from receiving a child tax credit.

He called attempts to provide these needy families with the same support other families were eligible for a "scam."

Just last year Sen. Rubio again opposed a child tax credit, this time claiming it "has been called a ‘child allowance,’ paid out as a universal basic income to all parents. That is not tax relief for working parents; it is welfare assistance."

[Bact PhD]

Jul 18, 2022 22:12:42 GMT LFC said:

Ron DeSatanist seems to be ducking the abortion issue. How cowardly of him.

Don’t be fooled. He’s got it all planned out once he wins re-election in November, even to the point of calling a special session to revisit the issue.
Don’t worry. The Dem nominee, either Crist or Fried, will HAMMER Supreme Emperor on this one. And some of the hard-core forced birthers are pressing him for more already. He can’t duck it for much longer.

[pnwguy]

Jul 19, 2022 16:05:24 GMT Bact PhD said:

Jul 18, 2022 22:12:42 GMT LFC said:

Ron DeSatanist seems to be ducking the abortion issue. How cowardly of him.

Don’t be fooled. He’s got it all planned out once he wins re-election in November, even to the point of calling a special session to revisit the issue.
Don’t worry. The Dem nominee, either Crist or Fried, will HAMMER Supreme Emperor on this one. And some of the hard-core forced Birchers are pressing him for more already. He can’t duck it for much longer.

But when does he sign the legislation setting up the Florida State Uterus Police to patrol the state?  

[Bact PhD]

Jul 19, 2022 16:29:51 GMT pnwguy said:

Jul 19, 2022 16:05:24 GMT Bact PhD said:

Don’t be fooled. He’s got it all planned out once he wins re-election in November, even to the point of calling a special session to revisit the issue.
Don’t worry. The Dem nominee, either Crist or Fried, will HAMMER Supreme Emperor on this one. And some of the hard-core forced Birchers are pressing him for more already. He can’t duck it for much longer.

But when does he sign the legislation setting up the Florida State Uterus Police to patrol the state?  

All snark aside, it would not surprise me at all if as soon as the results get certified the special session gets called for December and the legislation would be signed before year-end.

[pnwguy]

Jul 19, 2022 16:59:14 GMT Bact PhD said:

All snark aside, it would not surprise me at all if as soon as the results get certified the special session gets called for December and the legislation would be signed before year-end.

The difficulty for all these Uterine Slave States to post armed border patrols at any border with a Free State will push the GOP to demand a National Blastocyst Rights Act.  They won't be able to police their uterine slaves as easily as they want, at a state by state level.

If they are unsuccessful there, then a Fugitive Uterine Slave Act must be passed, so Tex-ass Rangers can go up into Illinois and shackle up their runaways for return.  They can keep them incarcerated until they deliver, at which time the state will be tired of feeding them and cut off any aid to the new mother. 

Praise Be!

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The Indiana AG who lied "asked the question" about the doctor who performed an abortion for a 10-yr old rape victim is about to be sued for defamation. Good. Words matter and if you're going to attack somebody the courts should enforce that you have to have the goods, particularly when in an official capacity.

Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita (R) may be facing a defamation lawsuit after he attacked an Indiana doctor on live television, making since-debunked allegations related to an abortion she performed on a 10-year-old rape victim.

The child rape victim had to travel to Indiana from Ohio for the procedure due to Ohio’s abortion ban.

The doctor, Dr. Caitlin Bernard, filed a tort claim notice against Rokita on Tuesday, which is the first step toward filing a defamation suit as required by Indiana law. The notice gives the attorney general 90 days to respond before Bernard can file the suit.

Bernard’s attorney, Kathleen A. DeLaney, informed Rokita in the notice that her client “intends to seek damages for security costs, legal fees, reputational harm, and emotional distress” caused by the attorney general’s smear campaign against the doctor.

Delaney explained how the attorney general allegedly smeared her client, which began when he appeared on Fox News on Wednesday and accused Bernard of being an “abortion activist acting as a doctor.”

Rokita then announced during that same interview that he was opening an investigation into Bernard, alleging without evidence that Bernard had illegally covered up the abortion and claiming the doctor had a “history of failing to report.”

Delaney pointed out in the tort claim notice that a “simple check” via a license verification search online would have confirmed that Bernard’s record doesn’t show any of that “history” Rokita was talking about.

“Mr. Rokita either knew the statements were false or acted with reckless disregard of the truth or falsity of the statements,” Delaney wrote, adding that “given the current political atmosphere in the United States, Mr. Rokita’s comments were intended to heighten public condemnation of Dr. Bernard, who legally provided legitimate medical care.”

Delaney also pointed out that Rokita’s accusation that Bernard didn’t report the abortion collapsed in the face of a simple public records search that confirmed Bernard had filed a report to Department of Child Services and the Indiana Department of Health, as required.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

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Texass Republicans patted themselves on the back for their mediocrity.

While celebrating last month’s U.S. Supreme Court decision overturning the constitutional right to an abortion, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott pointed to the millions of dollars in spending that state lawmakers approved during the 2021 legislative session to help pregnant women and new mothers.

Among the measures he touted was a law that extended Medicaid health care coverage for pregnant women until six months after they give birth or miscarry, exceeding the federal government’s requirement that states provide at least two months of the benefit.

“Texas is a pro-life state, and we have taken significant action to protect the sanctity of life,” the Republican governor said in a June 24 statement. “Texas has also prioritized supporting women’s healthcare and expectant mothers in need to give them the necessary resources so that they can choose life for their child.”

Abbott’s statement neglected to mention that Texas lags behind at least 33 states, including 11 led by Republican governors, as well as the District of Columbia, all of which have already expanded or are working with the federal government to extend postpartum Medicaid benefits for a full year after giving birth. In 2021, the Texas Housepassed a measure that would have lengthened that coverage to 12 months, but during the waning days of the legislative session one of the senators who co-authored the state’s restrictive abortion law halved the time period.

Texas is among a dozen states that have also declined to expand broader Medicaid coverage under the Affordable Care Act to additional people with low incomes, leaving it with some of the strictest eligibility requirements in the country. For example, single parents with one child must earn $196 or less a month to qualify.

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Republicans have now clearly drawn their line on contraception. That means the overwhelming majority of congressional Republicans agree with the definition that life begins at inception despite the fact that science views pregnancy starting at implantation. It also puts IVF clinics into a world of shit.

The House voted Thursday to pass a bill that would guarantee access to contraception by protecting the right to buy and use contraceptives without government restriction.

The final vote was 228-195.

Eight Republicans crossed over to vote with Democrats. Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, Nancy Mace of South Carolina, Fred Upton of Michigan, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Maria Salazar of Florida and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois joined all the Democrats in voting for the bill. Two Republicans, Reps. Bob Gibbs of Ohio and Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania, voted present, meaning they took no position either way on the bill.

The Right to Contraception Act, introduced by Democratic Rep. Kathy Manning of North Carolina, aims to "protect a person's ability to access contraceptives and to engage in contraception, and to protect a health care provider's ability to provide contraceptives, contraception, and information related to contraception," according to text of the bill.

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Kansas Republicans are trying for an amendment to the state constitution.

Kansas To Vote On First State Constitutional Amendment On Abortion

On Aug. 2, Kansas voters will decide whether their state’s constitution enshrines the right to an abortion.

• If the proposed amendment on the ballot passes, the GOP supermajority in the Kansas state legislature could pass an abortion ban akin to fellow red states.

•  Right now, abortion in Kansas is legal for pregnancies of up to 22 weeks (though patients are required to go through a 24-hour waiting period), making it a crucial state for people in surrounding anti-abortion states to get the procedure.

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This could have just as properly been placed under the Republican fascism thread. This is literally the very kind of behavior Dreher and Sullivan have been wailing about from the "woke" people for years. And remember the "woke mobs" are private individuals, not government entities. I don't expect either to stand up and sound an alarm on just how real this is.

While YouTube has started deleting videos promoting false information on abortion, the South Carolina Senate introduced a new bill that strives to block Internet users from talking about abortion truthfully online.

Known as the "Equal Protection at Conception—No Exceptions—Act," the bill would ban any website from hosting or publishing any information about accessing or self-inducing abortion "knowing that the information will be used, or is reasonably likely to be used, for an abortion."

Specifically, the bill restricts "providing information to a pregnant woman, or someone seeking information on behalf of a pregnant woman, by telephone, Internet, or any other mode of communication." That includes restrictions against providing abortion referral services, including to doulas performing abortions, as well as hosting or maintaining a website that's "purposefully directed to a pregnant woman" living in South Carolina. Less specifically, the bill notes that further restrictions will apply once the law becomes enforced.

The law is not designed to prosecute pregnant people—the one linked here does that—but instead expands the web of punishment by targeting the people who attempt to "aid and abet" an abortion. If it's passed, felony charges could be brought against anyone who violates, attempts to violate, or threatens to violate the law by a range of stakeholders, including the state attorney general, solicitors, the father or grandparents of the unborn child, or the parents or legal guardians of pregnant minors. The punishment for the crime is the same for anyone who performs or induces abortion "knowingly or intentionally": imprisonment "for not more than 25 years if the unborn child dies as a result of the violation" or "not more than 20 years if the unborn child is born alive despite the violation."

In addition to these restrictions, the bill paints abortion providers as an organized crime syndicate that must be regulated as such and abortion pills as a street drug that senators predict will be trafficked like fentanyl.

[jackd]

Do you suppose the Supreme Court thinks the 1st Amendment is still valid?

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Jul 25, 2022 21:10:08 GMT jackd said:

Do you suppose the Supreme Court thinks the 1st Amendment is still valid?

Depends. For who? "One interpretation of the Constitution for me and another for thee."

[pnwguy]

Jul 25, 2022 21:10:08 GMT jackd said:

Do you suppose the Supreme Court thinks the 1st Amendment is still valid?

It depends on pigmentation and income

[AnBr]

Jul 25, 2022 22:51:15 GMT pnwguy said:

Jul 25, 2022 21:10:08 GMT jackd said:

Do you suppose the Supreme Court thinks the 1st Amendment is still valid?

It depends on pigmentation and income

And gender.