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Post by LFC on Oct 19, 2022 22:03:26 GMT
More on today's "inflation" a.k.a. profiteering.
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Post by LFC on Nov 2, 2022 16:46:57 GMT
More "inflation."
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Post by goldenvalley on Nov 2, 2022 17:18:25 GMT
War in Europe is profitable for oil companies. Price of crude goes up, price of natural gas goes up. Shareholders are happy and the company is probably buying its own stock too. And it all trickles down to us in the form of higher prices.
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Post by LFC on Nov 2, 2022 21:21:32 GMT
The Fed just clearly stated that they're going to continue to fight inflation by squeezing the savings out of middle and lower class households. What a country we live in, where windfall profits from price gouging are protected and the savings of ordinary people are targeted.
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Post by goldenvalley on Nov 2, 2022 22:19:40 GMT
The Fed just clearly stated that they're going to continue to fight inflation by squeezing the savings out of middle and lower class households. What a country we live in, where windfall profits from price gouging are protected and the savings of ordinary people are targeted. Higher mortgage rates clearly has lowered the price and pace of residential sales in my neck of the woods. That is not a bad thing except for the fact that there is a shortage of entry level housing in the state. The Feds kept the interest rate very low for a long time. Low and middle income folks benefited from that, but so did large corporations. Is there a way to structure interest rates depending on who is doing the borrowing? I realize the market doesn't work that way but is there a way to engineer around it?
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Post by indy on Nov 3, 2022 12:16:19 GMT
The Fed just clearly stated that they're going to continue to fight inflation by squeezing the savings out of middle and lower class households. What a country we live in, where windfall profits from price gouging are protected and the savings of ordinary people are targeted. Higher mortgage rates clearly has lowered the price and pace of residential sales in my neck of the woods. That is not a bad thing except for the fact that there is a shortage of entry level housing in the state. The Feds kept the interest rate very low for a long time. Low and middle income folks benefited from that, but so did large corporations. Is there a way to structure interest rates depending on who is doing the borrowing? I realize the market doesn't work that way but is there a way to engineer around it? As you said, things aren't really set up that way currently. The Federal Funds Rate basically dictates a few simple things, with the two most interesting ones being the rate at which bank lends to each other and the interest rate the government pays to banks for the cash reserves they are legally required to keep on hand. So really, it's not the government lending money in any real sense but rather an indirect scheme to influence the interest rate that banks set. The decisions of who those banks lend to and at what rate are completely dictated by their own policies.
In addition, the really large corporations don't borrow from banks anyway (not entirely true but close enough). They issue bonds instead and the rate at which they can borrow is influenced by many, many factors but they are borrowing directly from the public.
Note that mortgage rates, which are arguably the most important rate to consumers, operates on a completely different mechanism, and are tied almost entirely to the 10 year bond rate---for the constant rate mortgages anyway. ARM rates are dependent on even other interest rates (LIBOR or constant rate bond maturities usually).
Anyway, it's a very complex system across lots of different market operations and risk profiles, so switching to a system where the government somehow tries to directly control the lending rates depending on who is doing the borrowing would be a recipe for long-term disaster in my view. Banks, and people more generally, are simply lending to make money and they will direct their capital to the people who give them the largest profit given the perceived risk. It's entirely possible that trying to set rates 'lower' for some group will have the effect of simply drying up loans for that group. Of course, maybe not because it will depend on who else can borrow and at what rate, so the demand will likely dictate it. In that case, maybe during business booms when borrowing is in high demand for businesses borrowing at the higher rate, loans for low and middle income folks would dry up but be OK at other times. I have no idea what would happen.
I would simply point to the student loan program. That has worked out well, hasn't it? Low and middle income folks get to borrow at 'below' market rates. Nobody, I think, doubts the original intentions, but really the long-term effect has been, first, to drive up prices for everyone, insanely so in my view, and second for people to assume debt they can't service anyway or if they can puts them under duress for the most important part of their earning lives. Actually, I kind of wonder what other indirect effects it has had, if any, in terms of family formation, delayed home buying, birth rates? Maybe they have been good changes, maybe bad. Again, I don't know. It's simply crazy.
Bottom line, I think, is that the sheer size of the various markets and the interdependence of them would make me kind of laugh at anyone who could claim to predictably engineer them, and probably make me keel over laughing if the government claimed it could do it. The law of unintended consequences looms extremely large.
Stepping back, I'm not at all sure giving 'low and middle income folks' preferable treatment in loan borrowing is even a good idea. Surely there are better ways to help people than potentially giving them the ability to borrow, even at a somewhat better rate.
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Post by LFC on Nov 10, 2022 19:17:16 GMT
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Post by LFC on Mar 14, 2023 15:28:10 GMT
This post by Barry Ritholtz was about the collapse of SVB but the chart of interest rate hikes seems to belong here. I know inflation jumped but this looks insanely aggressive. Maybe it's justified but it's certainly historic.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 14, 2023 16:17:22 GMT
This post by Barry Ritholtz was about the collapse of SVB but the chart of interest rate hikes seems to belong here. I know inflation jumped but this looks insanely aggressive. Maybe it's justified but it's certainly historic. Will we ever really know what causes inflation? I mean all of it, not just demand being higher than supply. Like how much is caused by profit taking by companies that raised prices due to inflationary pressures but never bothered to reduced them when the pressure eased or disappeared? I'm also thinking about my theory that health insurance companies raised premium rates during the roll out of Obamacare because they could claim that Obamacare caused them to raise prices. How can that be measured or estimated?
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Post by indy on Mar 14, 2023 19:22:18 GMT
Yeah, it's hard to tell what is cause and what is effect when it comes to these things. Everybody as a story they want to tell but the wellspring of their perspective usually remains hidden even from themselves.
I have real estate. Some of it is in larger (not urban) towns and some in smaller towns. There has been quite a disparity in how much more the cost of everything went up in the larger towns for everything from trash removal to lawn services to energy costs, while there is not nearly the same movement in the smaller towns. I have no idea why.
Personally, I think the fed sat on their heels a little too long and then overcompensated.
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Post by LFC on Mar 14, 2023 20:42:34 GMT
Will we ever really know what causes inflation? I mean all of it, not just demand being higher than supply. Like how much is caused by profit taking by companies that raised prices due to inflationary pressures but never bothered to reduced them when the pressure eased or disappeared? I'm also thinking about my theory that health insurance companies raised premium rates during the roll out of Obamacare because they could claim that Obamacare caused them to raise prices. How can that be measured or estimated? Exactly how much was caused by corporate profiteering may never be known, but we know it's significant. Got that? We have to take money away from consumers to tame price gouging. What a country we live in, eh?
This gives you some idea how bad it is.
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 14, 2023 20:58:50 GMT
Got that? We have to take money away from consumers to tame price gouging. What a country we live in, eh?
We're all just paperclips on the corporations' spreadsheets. The economy is to run for the benefit of the corporations. Gosh I sound like a Bernie supporter!
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Post by LFC on Mar 14, 2023 21:10:07 GMT
The frustrating thing is that it doesn't have to be either/or. It's just what we managed to "build" here in America.
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 14, 2023 16:38:06 GMT
I put this here because I assume the death of 18,000 dairy cattle will cause dairy prices to rise. I'm sure this will somehow be Biden's fault. I don't think of Texas when I think dairy, but...
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Post by pnwguy on Apr 14, 2023 18:46:52 GMT
I put this here because I assume the death of 18,000 dairy cattle will cause dairy prices to rise. I'm sure this will somehow be Biden's fault. If a comet hit the earth, Republicans would scream that it was Biden's fault....
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Post by andydp on Apr 14, 2023 18:55:30 GMT
I put this here because I assume the death of 18,000 dairy cattle will cause dairy prices to rise. I'm sure this will somehow be Biden's fault. If a comet hit the earth, Republicans would scream that it was Biden's fault.... They will claim Biden was trying to harvest the methane from the cow "burps" and something went wrong.
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Post by LFC on Apr 16, 2023 15:26:30 GMT
This is an article up at WaPo. After reading this part my first thought was, "Wait! Until SVB tank, wasn't the Fed planning on raising rates even more?" It sounds like the bank collapse may have prevented Fed overreach that could have actually harmed our economy.
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 21, 2023 20:00:44 GMT
So P & G raised their prices and what do you know? Quarterly revenue went up even though they sold less. And we wonder why inflation is "stubborn."
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Post by LFC on May 3, 2023 20:40:19 GMT
The Fed is on the verge of potentially f***ing up, bigly.
A reminder that this has been the most aggressive set of rate hikes in decades. Some blame for the SVB, Signature, and First Republican failures has been placed on them not being able to adjust to rising rates.
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Post by LFC on May 3, 2023 20:47:12 GMT
Ritholtz says it's time for the Fed to pause on their rate hikes.
Here's where he says we stand. There are links in here available in the article.
He supplied other indicators backing his view.
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Post by LFC on May 10, 2023 18:28:40 GMT
Ritholtz's latest take on inflation which continues to ease. It's interesting to see that the cost of services is now the single biggest factor.
His summation:
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Post by goldenvalley on May 30, 2023 18:48:34 GMT
We are so screwed...and the Fed has limited tools to deal with it...and our free market capitalistic underpinnings makes actual price control via legislation impossible. (Link is to the full article) And then there is the blame the consumer attitude of some: These damn people are spending money so we have no choice but to raise the price of food. Logical, right? I wonder if consolidation and the Walmartization of supply chains has something to do with this too. Walmart puts the screws on suppliers of all kinds who then charge more for the same product sold to small chains or independent stores. That's gotta have an impact too.
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Post by pnwguy on May 30, 2023 22:10:32 GMT
I wonder if consolidation and the Walmartization of supply chains has something to do with this too. Walmart puts the screws on suppliers of all kinds who then charge more for the same product sold to small chains or independent stores. That's gotta have an impact too. That was the point of the other NYTimes article on food inflation. www.nytimes.com/2023/05/29/opinion/inflation-groceries-pricing-walmart.html
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Post by goldenvalley on May 30, 2023 22:21:37 GMT
I wonder if consolidation and the Walmartization of supply chains has something to do with this too. Walmart puts the screws on suppliers of all kinds who then charge more for the same product sold to small chains or independent stores. That's gotta have an impact too. That was the point of the other NYTimes article on food inflation. www.nytimes.com/2023/05/29/opinion/inflation-groceries-pricing-walmart.htmlI didn't know about that article, very interesting. I was going on stuff I learned from a pharmacist who was decrying the Walmartization of retail pharmaceuticals. Independent pharmacies or even small local chains are gone for the most part. And in the small Midwestern town of my childhood, Walmart came in and crushed all local clothing, hardware, and pharmacies and then closed the Walmart itself, leaving the town without any pharmacy.
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Post by pnwguy on May 31, 2023 13:17:33 GMT
I didn't know about that article, very interesting. I was going on stuff I learned from a pharmacist who was decrying the Walmartization of retail pharmaceuticals. Independent pharmacies or even small local chains are gone for the most part. And in the small Midwestern town of my childhood, Walmart came in and crushed all local clothing, hardware, and pharmacies and then closed the Walmart itself, leaving the town without any pharmacy. That's just the creative destruction of Free Markets, don't you know? Your town was just inefficient and had to suffer the consequences of it. When I was in college, the ascendancy of Milton Freedman and his brand of libertarian economics was taking root. But especially in the 80s, the essentially crippling of anti-trust regulation was beginning. And as the Democratic Party realized they too could get in on corporate campaign money grifting, they were happy to be enablers. Who was the biggest power in Bill Clinton's Arkansas?
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