jackd
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Post by jackd on Jun 24, 2021 21:02:15 GMT
Before judging the sentencing, I think we need to see what happens to those who were provably violent. I doubt the Indiana grandmother was (at least provably).
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Post by LFC on Jun 24, 2021 21:17:54 GMT
The possibility of water wars, or at least water terrorism, continues to build. Remember that these are the same people who denied climate change and/or elected climate change deniers. Now that the resource is dwindling in large part due to climate change they're demanding an ever increasing percentage. And do you want to know who is to blame for the drought? Hint: It starts with "J" and rhymes with "news."
Feeling righteous about potentially killing desperate immigrants. How Christian, which I'm sure most of these numbnuts claim to be.
Be sure to read on. This isn't the end of the crazy or the threats of violence and lawlessness to steal the water that they aren't entitled to.
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AnBr
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Post by AnBr on Jun 25, 2021 0:04:03 GMT
And do you want to know who is to blame for the drought? Hint: It starts with "J" and rhymes with "news." The drought is caused by their space lasers.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jun 25, 2021 0:07:44 GMT
Eh I'm not that concerned about this one. There were two broad groups there on 1/6: the Oath Keeper, Proud Boy, 3%, etc pseudo military dudes; and then there were the people like this Morgan-Lloyd person, vaguely trying to help their hero not really understanding what he really wanted. The latter group really did not understand what they were doing and why. The first group, those are the ones to give maximum sentences too.
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Post by Traveler on Jun 26, 2021 17:35:20 GMT
I really dont care about the trespassers. They just better throw the book at the violent ones and ring leaders.
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Post by LFC on Jun 29, 2021 15:53:17 GMT
Nancy Pelosi is moving forward with a House Select Committee that will investigate the Jan. 6 Republican Insurrection. The terms are vastly less favorable to Republicans than the deal they rejected. Sure they'll whine that it's partisan but they were going to do that no matter what. Now they've allowed a committee to be set up that could be more like their Benghazi committee except that I'm sure it will deal in facts and reality. Oh, yeah. And there's no deadline for a final report.
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Post by LFC on Jun 29, 2021 16:25:29 GMT
I can't even.
I love the fact that the Dems are using the creation of the Benghazi committee as the template.
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RichTBikkies
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Post by RichTBikkies on Jun 30, 2021 6:36:39 GMT
This could equally have gone in the "GOP has completely lost its mind" thread. THE STUPID! IT BURNS!
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Post by LFC on Jun 30, 2021 17:31:44 GMT
Another one that the DHS warned us about a decade ago but who the Republicans provided cover for. F***ing traitors. When to the likes of MTG, Gaetz, and Gosar come out to stand up for this poor American's right to the freedom of speech? He's just their kinda' guy.
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Post by LFC on Jul 1, 2021 16:39:16 GMT
McCarthy (what is it with politicians that have that name anyway?) is digging in hard to protect the Republican terrorists who took part in the Jan. 6 insurrection.
He immediately followed with a bit of play acting as he tries to paint the Republicans as serious about solving any problems other than how to obtain and retain power. Oooooo, task forces! How cute!
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Post by LFC on Jul 1, 2021 17:51:42 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 1, 2021 19:32:06 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 2, 2021 21:10:22 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 2, 2021 21:31:01 GMT
Here's the NYT video of 1/6 made up of video from participants social media feeds plus other video from police body cams and other sources. Narration is by a person with a sort of Irish accent which struck me as an interesting way to suggest this was a dispassionate, just the facts ma'am observer. (That might be my imagination talking). Yes, I realize editing can shape a narrative to whatever the editors want but it's the first view I've had of the insurrectionists behavior and words so it struck me as more complete than what the impeachment trial showed. The most interesting parts of the 40 minute long video is being to hear the voices of the insurrectionists and getting a feel for all the various entry points into the Capitol. And that Capitol police guy who led the insurrectionists away from where Pence was hidden is a true hero...level headed and smart. It also strikes me that I've seen no similar video of hand to hand combat with police coming out of the various protests of last summer. Is that because there was no video of it or is that because very little of that sort of thing happened? We heard lots about water bottles and maybe bricks being thrown, but not about this sort of medieval looking combat.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 14:35:27 GMT
TPM summarized the Republicans' current position on the Jan. 6 investigative committee. Basically they're f***ed. They gave threw away everything they negotiated for and will be left with nothing more than shouting at the wind that the committee is a witch hunt. Woop-dee-doo. They were going to do that anyway. They could have had an enormous amount of control PLUS be able to screech that what the Dems were doing was partisan. On top of that they threw away an end date. I hope Pelosi drags this thing out and issues a final report in late November ... of 2022. In the meantime keep fairly quiet until early 2022 and then just keep issuing a series of reports through the entire election season. These are the rules that the Republicans set for Hillary Clinton. Just follows the rules of engagement set up the GOP.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 18:46:30 GMT
The story on this dirtbag gets worse. And this wasn't even his first time he violated court rules. He needs to be in prison without bail until he trial is complete. Hopefully after that he'll spend a lot more time in jail. He's a dangerous terrorist. His attorney's defense is ... pathetic.
Here are more details on the violations.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 18:52:27 GMT
This is what happens when the armed terrorists move in and stink up the place.
How democratic! How American! Blocking people you don't like from using a building owned by all of the taxpayers and maintained by their tax dollars.
Read the rest to see how racism is playing into this as well. Trump really did bring the scum to the surface.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 20:24:13 GMT
The right has been coming around to full-throated support of right-wing domestic terrorism that go well beyond apologetics. TPM lists 5 ways the right-wing movement around Ashli Babbitt has promoted her as a martyr and hero while demonizing the officer who took her down in as clean a kill as we've seen on video (unlike how many black men?).
American traitor Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZzwipe) is demanding charges be brought against the Capitol Hill Police officer who did his job. So much for supporting the police. This is worse than the most misguided case I've seen of attacking a shooting by an officer. Nice brown shirt you've got there, Mr. Gosar. Or should I say Herr Gosar?
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 6, 2021 20:27:27 GMT
Maybe those Ashil Babbitt folks should take a look at the video compiled by the NYT last week. It pretty clearly shows the woman attempting to get through the broken glass on the door...footage from inside the room shows it.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 20:30:51 GMT
Josh Marshall has a good summary on Babbitt. The Republicans and other right-wingers using her death as a prop and somehow describing it as anything but justified are traitors to our nation. They have now shit on the Constitution and the rule of law. They disgust me.
Here's a perfect description of where they were when Babbitt tried to lead them through the last barrier that safeguarded the presidential chain of succession. Anybody trying to make the case that nobody would have gotten hurt can first explain the 140 or so officers who were injured. Was the screaming armed crowd smashing down doors going to have a nice chat with the people they were angry with? This was an assault on America, plain and simple.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 20:32:40 GMT
Maybe those Ashil Babbitt folks should take a look at the video compiled by the NYT last week. It pretty clearly shows the woman attempting to get through the broken glass on the door...footage from inside the room shows it.
Black man reaches for a cell phone with no warning from an officer? Clean kill. A front line rioter ignores multiple orders to stand down and breaches the final barrier? Murder. That's how they think. Reality has been left behind by these people long ago.
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jackd
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Post by jackd on Jul 6, 2021 20:34:08 GMT
The fact that Gosar is an idiot should be enough to deal with his comments.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2021 20:36:49 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jul 7, 2021 13:28:38 GMT
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-ALl D-Bag, All the Time) says he can't be sued for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
"I AM ABOVE THE LAW!"
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 7, 2021 17:43:21 GMT
A little insight into McCarthy and the Select Committee on 1/6.
While some Republicans want some serious minded Republicans to be on the committee even as they see it as a Trump witch hunt:
Davis, it seems, is not someone who believes that the people in the building on 1/6 were tourists.
I'm not sure McCarthy is required to appoint anyone to the committee.
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