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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 20, 2021 15:13:10 GMT
Look like Leningrad Lindsey didn't buy Pres Trump's claims of "fraud". Lindsey Graham and Mike Lee personally vetted Trump’s fraud claims, new book says. They were unpersuaded.Graham and Lee, both of whom ultimately voted to certify the results, took the claims of election fraud seriously enough to get briefed on the details, involve their senior staff and call state officials throughout the country. But privately, Graham gave the arguments a withering assessment, according to the book, saying they were suitable for “Third grade.” The episode illustrates how strenuously the president’s legal team sought to nullify the results of the election; how flimsy even their more serious claims were; and what little stock the president’s own allies placed in his objections, even as they stood steadfastly with their standard-bearer. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lindsey-graham-and-mike-lee-personally-vetted-trump-e2-80-99s-fraud-claims-new-book-says-they-were-unpersuaded/ar-AAOCY9m?ocid=uxbndlbingIt looks like people offered theories about how to manipulate an election but no proof that the theory was put into practice. It's easy to theorize in the absence of knowing just what steps elections officials take to guard against that sort of thing...audits, hand counts, etc. The practicalities of large scale manipulation make accomplishing it pretty impossible. Thousands of dead people voting, thousands of people voting twice, seeking more than one absentee ballot...just not really possible to do on that scale without some elections officials noticing it. That's probably why they resorted to the Kracken theory that the machines flipped the votes.
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Post by pnwguy on Sept 20, 2021 15:56:44 GMT
Next up: Millions of would-be Trump voters were intercepted by Sargon and his fellow luminous spheres to telepathically force them to mark their ballots for Biden without their knowledge. Sargon controls Biden and he will be turning over Americans to be host bodies. The vaccine will be the first step in making complaint bodies for their new beings.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 20, 2021 16:04:12 GMT
Next up: Millions of would-be Trump voters were intercepted by Sargon and his fellow luminous spheres to telepathically force them to mark their ballots for Biden without their knowledge. Sargon controls Biden and he will be turning over Americans to be host bodies. The vaccine will be the first step in making complaint bodies for their new beings. Well actually Trump supporters put the claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election into the telepathically force voters to vote for Trump category. And in a way, they are right but with the wrong means of influence. Mis and disinformation transmitted by social media and right wing media replaced the telepathic part of the plan.
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Post by LFC on Sept 20, 2021 21:09:50 GMT
Graham and Lee, both of whom ultimately voted to certify the results, took the claims of election fraud seriously enough to get briefed on the details, involve their senior staff and call state officials throughout the country. But privately, Graham gave the arguments a withering assessment, according to the book, saying they were suitable for “Third grade.” The episode illustrates how strenuously the president’s legal team sought to nullify the results of the election; how flimsy even their more serious claims were; and what little stock the president’s own allies placed in his objections, even as they stood steadfastly with their standard-bearer. Tighten up the race significantly and tell me how you think Lindsey & Lee would have reacted. Their assessment wasn't just that the claims were bogus, it was that they were bogus and couldn't work.
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Post by LFC on Sept 21, 2021 21:07:56 GMT
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Post by LFC on Sept 21, 2021 22:34:30 GMT
People revolving in Planet Trump's orbit have had more actual connections to individual Russians than the Bolshoi Ballet. It sounds like these two were basic grifters.
One was tied to several prominent Republicans who sure do like their criminals. And Trump liked to pardon them.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 22, 2021 1:29:09 GMT
Trump campaign lawyers wrote a memo about Dominion before Giuliani and Powell staged their press conference. Guess what it said. You'd think the people that put the memo together would notice that Giuliani and Powell were saying this stuff and bring up the memo...hey didn't you folks see this?
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Post by LFC on Sept 23, 2021 16:24:34 GMT
On the Russian campaign cash scheme TPM asks the right question.
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Post by LFC on Sept 23, 2021 21:38:18 GMT
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Post by LFC on Sept 24, 2021 19:20:38 GMT
The New York AG's office is still looking to tear down the wall protecting Trump's criminal enterprise.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 24, 2021 20:12:28 GMT
The New York AG's office is still looking to tear down the wall protecting Trump's criminal enterprise. It'll be years before some concise sense is made of all these records. It's why white collar crime gets a pass and/or plea bargains out. Prosecutors know a jury won't sit still long enough to get a long complicated set of facts presented and put into context. Much easier to go after someone who pulls out a gun in a convenience store, plus that sort of defendant doesn't have money to pay for lawyers to confuse the issues.
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Post by LFC on Sept 27, 2021 16:34:23 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2021 20:12:19 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 4, 2021 20:13:43 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 6, 2021 20:39:54 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 6, 2021 20:41:15 GMT
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Post by LFC on Oct 11, 2021 18:26:44 GMT
"Daddy, make me the president of the World Bank. Please daddy! Pleeeeaaaaase! I've been such a good girl!" And no, I don't believe for a second that she willingly declined the position. Where the hell would Trump have gotten such a lame-brained idea in the first place? The most obvious source is his lame-brained offspring. I suspect multiple people told Trump he and Ivanka would be torn apart if they tried it.
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Post by LFC on Oct 12, 2021 16:34:18 GMT
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Post by Bact PhD on Oct 12, 2021 18:16:21 GMT
Unreported gifts to Trump and his cohorts? I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!
The furs turn out to be phony (assuming what was turned in to the GSA weren’t constructed after the initial gift for the express purpose of throwing the bureaucrats off the trail)? HAHAHAHA (I’m reminded of an opening line from many a Classic Match Game ‘7x question: Dumb Donald was soooo dumb…)
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Post by goldenvalley on Oct 12, 2021 22:06:54 GMT
Unreported gifts to Trump and his cohorts? I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!
The furs turn out to be phony (assuming what was turned in to the GSA weren’t constructed after the initial gift for the express purpose of throwing the bureaucrats off the trail)? HAHAHAHA (I’m reminded of an opening line from many a Classic Match Game ‘7x question: Dumb Donald was soooo dumb…) I like this line of thinking. Trump has the real furs and had the fake ones made to give to the GSA!
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Post by jackd on Oct 12, 2021 23:07:00 GMT
That might even be true. Some people are saying, as the Donald might say.
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Post by pnwguy on Oct 12, 2021 23:59:23 GMT
That might even be true. Some people are saying, as the Donald might say. I figure the Saudis assumed their "glowing orb" routine was enough to keep Dumpster unaware of any fakery. After all, they assumed dozens of women have been faking orgasms with him for decades.
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Post by AnBr on Oct 14, 2021 13:53:20 GMT
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Post by andydp on Oct 19, 2021 11:46:35 GMT
Ed note: Has anyone considered changing the thread from "Final" skid marks to Festering Skid Marks ? Nothing seems final from that administration. Peel off one layer and another slimier one is right below it. I guess its a case of "everyone else in this place is doing it". The State Department is investigating whether Trump appointees stole gift bags intended for foreign leaders from the canceled 2020 G7 summit, report saysThe State Department's internal watchdog is investigating whether Trump-era appointees stole gift bags on their way out the door that were meant for foreign leaders attending the 2020 G7 summit, which was canceled, The New York Times reported. The Times uncovered the previously unreported inquiry from the Office of the Inspector General at the State Department as part of a larger investigation, published on Monday, into missing gifts from foreign leaders and items that were intended to be given to them during the Trump administration. Nonpartisan career officials said they saw their political-appointee colleagues making off with the bags, paid for at taxpayers' expense, from the department's gift vault during the transition to the Biden administration, The Times said. www.businessinsider.com/state-dept-probing-if-trump-officials-stole-g7-gift-bags-report-2021-10
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Post by LFC on Oct 19, 2021 13:29:46 GMT
I guess its a case of "everyone else in this place is doing it". But across administrations nobody did it like the Trumpies. The grift was vast.
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