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Israel
May 31, 2021 23:51:27 GMT
Post by LFC on May 31, 2021 23:51:27 GMT
Bibi’s Insurrection. He's desperate and will do anything to hold onto his power. Sound familiar?
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Israel
Jun 1, 2021 0:05:16 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jun 1, 2021 0:05:16 GMT
Netanyahu leaves behind a heavily damaged relationship with the U.S. He hitched his wagon to the Republicans to the point of slapping Obama in the face in his own country. There's a lot of Democrats, including Jewish Democrats, that remember that. Biden is old school when it comes to Israel but if the Republicans can't steal all of the future elections Bibi's hubris may bear some sour fruit in the future. Josh Marshall says that the class that should understand these dynamics just don't in a piece called They Still Don't Get It.
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Jun 1, 2021 13:59:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 13:59:11 GMT
Israel can't move forward as long as Netanyahu is around ............. but Bennett sounds too much like out of the frying pan etc! Replacing a cynical politician with a pro-settler, pro-annexation religious nationalist is a move of desperation but, like replacing Trump with a Sessions or a Greene or another wacko loony, will anybody, anywhere, be any better off?
Edited to add: Josh Marshall beat me to it. As a non-jewish person it's increasingly difficult to defend Israel the way I used to back in the day
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Post by pnwguy on Jun 1, 2021 18:48:28 GMT
Bibi’s Insurrection. He's desperate and will do anything to hold onto his power. Sound familiar? "Who you gonna call? Cyber Ninjas!"
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Israel
Jun 3, 2021 3:32:34 GMT
Post by LFC on Jun 3, 2021 3:32:34 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jun 4, 2021 14:52:24 GMT
Josh Marshall has a good summary of the situation in Israel called Israel Gallops Towards Its Own Jan 6 ( paywalled). Netanyahu is Trump, just not as dumb. He will do anything he thinks he can get away with and so will his allies. F*** the country and f*** democracy, it's all about them. Sound familiar?
The demagogues in democracies are learning from each other. Maybe my take is too pessimistic but it sure feels like Turkey has fallen, Hungary has likely fallen, and Poland is on its way. The U.S., Britain, and Israel all look like they're on shaky ground. And Putin is laughing his ass off.
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Israel
Jun 4, 2021 14:59:47 GMT
Post by LFC on Jun 4, 2021 14:59:47 GMT
Josh already has a piece ( paywalled) up on how Netanyahu could remain in power.
Netanyahu, just like Trump, is inciting the craziest ideologues to overturn an election that didn't hand him what he demanded. Or maybe Trump was like Netanyahu looking at the history from 1995. He's already created a crisis in which he murdered thousands of Palestinians and caused death or harm to a number of Israelis as well in a desperate attempt to hold office. What a few more bodies added to the count? The man is a psychopath whose sole driving goal is to retain power.
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Israel
Jun 4, 2021 15:47:34 GMT
Post by goldenvalley on Jun 4, 2021 15:47:34 GMT
Josh already has a piece ( paywalled) up on how Netanyahu could remain in power.
Netanyahu, just like Trump, is inciting the craziest ideologues to overturn an election that didn't hand him what he demanded. Or maybe Trump was like Netanyahu looking at the history from 1995. He's already created a crisis in which he murdered thousands of Palestinians and caused death or harm to a number of Israelis as well in a desperate attempt to hold office. What a few more bodies added to the count? The man is a psychopath whose sole driving goal is to retain power.
From what I read this is a strange coalition of both extremes of the left and right, plus an Islamic Arab group. It seems that there is some agreement that Netanyahu must go. If this coalition is successful though, how long could it last? Will it break apart and then another election is called? What a mess.
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Post by LFC on Jun 4, 2021 17:16:13 GMT
From what I read this is a strange coalition of both extremes of the left and right, plus an Islamic Arab group. It seems that there is some agreement that Netanyahu must go. If this coalition is successful though, how long could it last? Will it break apart and then another election is called? What a mess.
People who believe that a parliamentary system is, by definition, superior to more direct voting should remember this. Any system that's run by humans can be twisted and destroyed.
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Israel
Jun 13, 2021 22:26:05 GMT
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Post by pg on Jun 13, 2021 22:26:05 GMT
Bye, Bye, Bibi. Hello, Bennett:
"Twice in history, we have lost our national home precisely because the leaders of the generation were not able to sit with one and another and compromise. Each was right, yet with all their being right, they burnt the house down on top of us," Bennett said. "I am proud of the ability to sit together with people with very different views from my own."
At least striking a good note, but what a mess he inherits. This is a difficult hill to climb, to say the least.
I have the feeling that we'll be talking a lot about Bibi and media in the future. Although most of his old reliables are either dead or gone, we always Faux News to peddle his BS.
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Israel
Jun 14, 2021 16:05:58 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Jun 14, 2021 16:05:58 GMT
Bye, Bye, Bibi. Hello, Bennett: "Twice in history, we have lost our national home precisely because the leaders of the generation were not able to sit with one and another and compromise. Each was right, yet with all their being right, they burnt the house down on top of us," Bennett said. "I am proud of the ability to sit together with people with very different views from my own." At least striking a good note, but what a mess he inherits. This is a difficult hill to climb, to say the least. I have the feeling that we'll be talking a lot about Bibi and media in the future. Although most of his old reliables are either dead or gone, we always Faux News to peddle his BS. The reverberations of Bibi's reign will last for years.
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Post by LFC on Jun 14, 2021 20:01:22 GMT
Josh Marshall with Two Thoughts on the Fall of Netanyahu. The first boils down to him being an asshole who didn't hesitate to screw over allies when it was politically expedient, getting himself to the point where he not only had fewer allies but also had people he turned into political enemies.
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Israel
Sept 16, 2021 16:17:44 GMT
Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2021 16:17:44 GMT
When is Israel just going to get rid of this corrupt shitbag? (Yeah, I know. As a citizen of a nation that still has a sizeable minority clinging to the likes of Donald Trump I have no room to point fingers.)
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Sept 16, 2021 18:01:08 GMT
Post by pnwguy on Sept 16, 2021 18:01:08 GMT
When is Israel just going to get rid of this corrupt shitbag? (Yeah, I know. As a citizen of a nation that still has a sizeable minority clinging to the likes of Donald Trump I have no room to point fingers.) The term "corrupt shitbag" could apply to Ellison himself. No wonder he's involved with Bibi.
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Post by andydp on Sept 16, 2021 18:08:54 GMT
When is Israel just going to get rid of this corrupt shitbag? (Yeah, I know. As a citizen of a nation that still has a sizeable minority clinging to the likes of Donald Trump I have no room to point fingers.) The term "corrupt shitbag" could apply to Ellison himself. No wonder he's involved with Bibi. I think “Corrupt Shitbag” would be a great name for a death cult, super metal hard rock band.
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Sept 16, 2021 18:54:42 GMT
Post by pnwguy on Sept 16, 2021 18:54:42 GMT
I think “Corrupt Shitbag” would be a great name for a death cult, super metal hard rock band. Change that to "death cult, super country, hard-headed, dumb-as-a-rock, band" and you'd describe the current GOP just fine.
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Sept 16, 2021 20:12:54 GMT
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Post by andydp on Sept 16, 2021 20:12:54 GMT
I think “Corrupt Shitbag” would be a great name for a death cult, super metal hard rock band. Change that to "death cult, super country, hard-headed, dumb-as-a-rock, band" and you'd describe the current GOP just fine. I like it !!!
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2021 20:40:05 GMT
Change that to "death cult, super country, hard-headed, dumb-as-a-rock, band" and you'd describe the current GOP just fine. Bonus points for keeping all the words simple and 2 syllables or less so they can maybe understand it.
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 16, 2021 21:46:18 GMT
I love this group. Talk of geopolitics ends up with naming a country or metal band!
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Israel
Dec 23, 2021 18:58:09 GMT
Post by LFC on Dec 23, 2021 18:58:09 GMT
Netanyahu aligned himself with a prominent Jewish terrorist. That terrorist is still in the Knesset and just lost his shit. He should go to prison for making terroristic threats and threatening two men with a firearm.
Like all good right-wingnuts he, of course, played the victim. At least he was honest about how it could have ended in murder, just not about who the murderer would have been.
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Post by LFC on Jan 3, 2022 21:04:57 GMT
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Post by AnBr on Jan 3, 2022 22:22:10 GMT
Just your intro makes me smile.
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Jan 15, 2022 15:37:35 GMT
Post by andydp on Jan 15, 2022 15:37:35 GMT
Just your intro makes me smile. LOVE the President Trump quote.
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Post by andydp on Jan 17, 2022 20:51:48 GMT
I love this group. Talk of geopolitics ends up with naming a country or metal band!
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Israel
Jan 24, 2022 22:57:55 GMT
Post by LFC on Jan 24, 2022 22:57:55 GMT
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