|
Post by goldenvalley on Jul 9, 2021 17:37:26 GMT
Here's an interesting interview with Jonathon Rauch found in The Atlantic. Agree with him or not, it's worth reading someone who has spent a lot of time thinking about where we are today.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 11, 2021 17:55:45 GMT
The Chair of the Virginia Republican Party goes full metal GOP and accuses a UVA professor of what they themselves are doing. His sin? He told the truth about Trump. I'm happy to see that the university told the Republicans to go pound sand. Welcome to Republican cancel culture.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 11, 2021 18:14:27 GMT
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 11, 2021 19:21:41 GMT
The Chair of the Virginia Republican Party goes full metal GOP and accuses a UVA professor of what they themselves are doing. His sin? He told the truth about Trump. I'm happy to see that the university told the Republicans to go pound sand. Welcome to Republican cancel culture. More details on the Republican screeching and attempts at exercising their own brand of cancel culture.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 12, 2021 18:08:03 GMT
|
|
jackd
Assistant Professor
Posts: 813
|
Post by jackd on Jul 12, 2021 18:30:10 GMT
So he agrees that Biden actually did get the votes!
|
|
|
Post by indy on Jul 12, 2021 18:41:38 GMT
So he agrees that Biden actually did get the votes! Yes, but only because Google apparently used subtlety in their approach. Only the sledgehammer to your skull approach used by Fox is allowed!
|
|
jackd
Assistant Professor
Posts: 813
|
Post by jackd on Jul 12, 2021 19:26:40 GMT
But the transition is informative, isn't it? First it was vote fraud. Then it was miscounting. Then it was fixed voting machines, and now it's Google persuaded people to vote the wrong way.
|
|
RichTBikkies
Grad Student
Trainee Basil Fawlty. Practising Victor Meldrew.
Posts: 136
|
Post by RichTBikkies on Jul 12, 2021 19:37:47 GMT
But the transition is informative, isn't it? First it was vote fraud. Then it was miscounting. Then it was fixed voting machines, and now it's Google persuaded people to vote the wrong way. Welcome, my esteemed interlocutors, to the post-truth society.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 12, 2021 20:15:04 GMT
But the transition is informative, isn't it? First it was vote fraud. Then it was miscounting. Then it was fixed voting machines, and now it's Google persuaded people to vote the wrong way. I don't see a a transition. I see them collecting the whole set. They're the kind of children that never give up on their toys.
|
|
jackd
Assistant Professor
Posts: 813
|
Post by jackd on Jul 12, 2021 20:39:57 GMT
Well, the pattern isn't perfect but it does follow a general movement from one claim to another as each is either disproven or been terminally ridiculed or, in the case of the voting machines, the subject of a serious lawsuit.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 12, 2021 21:59:47 GMT
Well, the pattern isn't perfect but it does follow a general movement from one claim to another as each is either disproven or been terminally ridiculed or, in the case of the voting machines, the subject of a serious lawsuit. I'd say the fear of a serious lawsuit is the only one that's truly valid. The lack of reality doesn't seem to even slow them down. Hell, they're still talking about vast election fraud, the dangers of the COVID vaccine, the deep state, and on and on. Sometimes they just jump to the new toys but it's virtually impossible to nudge them back towards reality no matter how much evidence you have.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 20, 2021 20:26:19 GMT
This TPM piece called We Are All Propagandists Now describes the death of persuasion as propaganda and how outrage has consumed the political conversation.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 20, 2021 20:35:14 GMT
This is an interesting take from a TPM reader on Trump and the beliefs of his followers. I think there's a lot that's right as well. Yes, Trump manufactured the election fraud dogma out of thin air but he also desperately wanted credit for creating the vaccine. The fact is that he barely makes a statement today about the lead-up to the release of them. He doesn't continually brag about inventing the vaccine (since that's what he'd claim). He's always market testing his lies and taking credit for the vaccines is just one that doesn't test well in MAGAt World. What we're seeing is just him marching across the ground that Faux News and their ilk have spent decades preparing.
|
|
|
Post by goldenvalley on Jul 21, 2021 0:38:40 GMT
It was too late for him to use the announcement of the vaccine development in the election season. The moment passed quickly and he was deep into the Big Lie already.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 21, 2021 20:34:05 GMT
Josh Marshall posted WTF Is Going On Here? and WTF Is Going On Here? Part II in response to the Faux Newsers and even Rep. Steve Scalise promoting the COVID vaccine. BTW Scalise was JUST got vaccinated this weekend. Marshall is pondering about bad polling, bad feedback, or some other self-serving reason but just can't pin it down. It really does sound like some marching orders were given from someplace.
|
|
|
Post by goldenvalley on Jul 21, 2021 20:37:11 GMT
They realize their viewers are the ones dying of Delta variant.
|
|
pnwguy
Associate Professor
Posts: 1,447
|
Post by pnwguy on Jul 22, 2021 0:52:49 GMT
Soon they will call it "My Trump Miracle Vaccine".
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 13:43:52 GMT
Soon they will call it "My Trump Miracle Vaccine". If only it was oral they could call it "My Pill."
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Jul 22, 2021 21:05:21 GMT
|
|
|
Post by goldenvalley on Jul 22, 2021 23:15:38 GMT
I wonder when his 15 minutes of fame will expire.
|
|
pnwguy
Associate Professor
Posts: 1,447
|
Post by pnwguy on Jul 23, 2021 15:31:32 GMT
I wonder when his 15 minutes of fame will expire. He's vying for a cabinet position in the Trump Restoration. No matter that his state is one of the leading states now for Covid deaths. Time to yell "Squirrel!"
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Aug 9, 2021 20:13:56 GMT
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Aug 10, 2021 15:39:08 GMT
Matt Lewis, TDB's pet right-winger, is in a meltdown because Biden and the Democrats are playing the same game Republicans have been playing for decades. Suddenly that's now "trashing American norms." It's almost like this guy stopped following politics in the 80s and just jumped back in.
No acknowledgement of the multiple unprecedented hikes in the use of the filibuster by REPUBLICANS over the decades. No acknowledgement of the McConnell/Boehner marching orders to REPUBLICANS that they MUST obstruct anything Obama was for. No acknowledgement of unprecedented blocking of judicial nominees and court packing by REPUBLICANS for decades. No acknowledgement that only the REPUBLICANS have weaponized shutting down the government as a form of blackmail and are currently threatening to do it again.
Lewis might not be an utter nutter but he's clearly clueless on the reason American politics is what it is today. BTW he threw in a little false equivalence at the end which is actually and pathetically a step up for a conservative these days. My bold of a massive strawman that he pulled somewhere out of deep in his ass. Who the f*** thought Biden would be able to unilaterally restore normalcy to our system of government when the Republican Party is clearly 100% dedicated to tearing it apart? You'd have to be an idiot, completely ignorant of politics, or both. BTW, Matt, much of that "progressive agenda" is extremely popular with over 60% of Americans. Look it up, along with a LOT more you clearly don't know.
|
|
|
Post by LFC on Aug 12, 2021 19:32:27 GMT
|
|