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Post by LFC on Apr 5, 2021 19:58:09 GMT
Here's an excellent recap (from Feb 2020) of the environmental sins of the Trump administration. Pure, Republican evil. This is right in their wheelhouse.
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Post by LFC on Apr 6, 2021 17:49:59 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 6, 2021 21:01:17 GMT
I have to admit that I've got a knee jerk reaction of "F*** 'em!" Maybe it comes from being on the East Coast where I've seen a staggering number of homes built on barrier islands which are temporary and move all the time in nature. My view is that so many of these homes should never have been built and the idea of taxpayers potentially getting stuck with the bill gets to me. Admittedly if the program works out the taxpayers won't get stuck but then again much of this program could be performed on an individual level with people renting out their homes or "selling" them through reverse mortgages (if old enough).
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 7, 2021 15:35:13 GMT
The Pacific coastline doesn't have glorified sand bars called barrier islands like the Atlantic and Gulf coasts have. Hurricanes don't hit the coast. That seems to happen more in Mexico. There is the possibility of tsunamis but none have hit or caused damage in that part of California in a long, long time. Still the coastline is eroding and in the cliffy parts of the coast sometimes crumbling into the sea. I am attracted to the state senator's idea because the value of the current houses is considerable and the counties might as well reap the property tax on them as long as possible. It's worth a try.
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Post by LFC on Apr 13, 2021 19:10:13 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 13, 2021 19:16:19 GMT
The discussions about seeding the atmosphere to reflect sunlight scares the shit out of me. It's ironic that some of the denial community, which spent decades telling us we can't know as much as we know about global climate, has given a thumbs-up to completely monkeying with the climate we can't really understand. W...T...F?
This piece advocates more data, which is fine. I look at the uncertainty factor we still have in climate change science (we know which way it's going but have only so much power for very specific predictions) and think that even with more data we're layering an new uncertainty on top of existing uncertainty. Getting the localized effects right is going to take a LOT more investment in research than we've been willing to put into climate change study thus far.
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Post by andydp on Apr 13, 2021 19:42:11 GMT
They were proposing a similar "altering" tactic during Vietnam. They wanted to position huge mirrors in orbit to reflect sunlight and focus it on Vietnam where it would deprive the Viet Cong use of the night. It was thrown out when they realized it wouild affect migratory patterns of birds and animals. The discussions about seeding the atmosphere to reflect sunlight scares the shit out of me. It's ironic that some of the denial community, which spent decades telling us we can't know as much as we know about global climate, has given a thumbs-up to completely monkeying with the climate we can't really understand. W...T...F?
This piece advocates more data, which is fine. I look at the uncertainty factor we still have in climate change science (we know which way it's going but have only so much power for very specific predictions) and think that even with more data we're layering an new uncertainty on top of existing uncertainty. Getting the localized effects right is going to take a LOT more investment in research than we've been willing to put into climate change study thus far.
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 13, 2021 23:39:47 GMT
They were proposing a similar "altering" tactic during Vietnam. They wanted to position huge mirrors in orbit to reflect sunlight and focus it on Vietnam where it would deprive the Viet Cong use of the night. It was thrown out when they realized it wouild affect migratory patterns of birds and animals. Seriously someone actually proposed that? It's astounding.
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Post by andydp on Apr 14, 2021 17:04:11 GMT
They were proposing a similar "altering" tactic during Vietnam. They wanted to position huge mirrors in orbit to reflect sunlight and focus it on Vietnam where it would deprive the Viet Cong use of the night. It was thrown out when they realized it wouild affect migratory patterns of birds and animals. Seriously someone actually proposed that? It's astounding. Remember, this was the time before we had night vision goggles (NVG). The early ones, called "Starlight Scopes" were the size of a 600mm telephoto lens. The new ones are worn like a set of ski goggles and are fantastic. If you look at some soldier's helmets, you'll see a bracket. That holds the NVG for the soldier. The best thing about them, they are a "passive" system. They do not emit "signals" (like infra red energy) that could be detected by the enemy. The systems used in tanks are different and actually use the heat signature from whatever you're looking at. They use a super cooled heat detector. I've seen it work in 90 degree days in Alabama.
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Post by LFC on Apr 15, 2021 21:44:11 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 21, 2021 21:41:56 GMT
Here's an unexpected but welcome group showing a real interest in green energy. Sounds like reality is being faced rather than scratching, clawing, and then dying anyway. I say good for them and let's see what can be done.
They're also still clawing to increase the use of coal but that's no shock. This is a multi-prong attack on the problem of lost jobs, not a complete capitulation.
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Post by LFC on Apr 22, 2021 18:00:14 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 4, 2021 17:57:57 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 6, 2021 21:08:26 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 12, 2021 16:09:37 GMT
NYT has some cool graphics to show "normal" temps and rainfall changing over the years. Take a look. Note: the graphic is animated and I can't seem to pull it off the NYT website to show it here.
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Post by LFC on May 19, 2021 18:37:47 GMT
Personally I think the people who flippantly talk about climate engineering to offset the impacts of greenhouse gases are insane. After 50 years of intense study we're still trying to figure out all the cascading impacts of man-made global warming but we'll spin up a program in a decade or so to change it back in a predictable fashion? F*** YOU!
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Post by LFC on May 20, 2021 17:35:34 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 27, 2021 17:48:19 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 27, 2021 19:44:35 GMT
Real movement? I'm sure long-term investors want the big oil companies to remain highly profitable and that means planning for the greater use of renewables.
Here are the details of the Exxon vote.
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Post by AnBr on May 29, 2021 20:50:10 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jun 10, 2021 19:47:19 GMT
The Keystone XL pipeline dies a well deserved death. This project was busting with alarm bells and never should have been approved at any level. The taking of Native American land, the crossing of a large, critical aquifer, the caustic nature of this particular form of oil, coupled with the poor track record of the company pushing it should have caused their application to be DOA.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 21:10:06 GMT
I couldn't agree more, LFC - speaking as a Canadian, the only way this damned thing was going to die a death was for your country to deny the permits 'cos sure as eggs is eggs it's the only way Alberta will ever get it through their thick heads that the future of their province can no longer be tied to oil. If they'd put half as much thought and $$$ into green energy as they have into tar they might not be in the sad and sorry state they're in now. My only fear is that if there's a Conservative or Republican government in the future (and there will be, dammitalltohellandback) that pipeline will probably be resurrected, approved and built before anybody can say 'hang on a bit'!! I'm afraid I have a very bleak view of the future of this planet
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Post by LFC on Jun 15, 2021 15:15:12 GMT
The Clean Air Act has been wildly successful in terms of ROI, both in lives and dollars. (Bold is there's.) Of course that money doesn't directly and predictably funnel into the "right" pockets so it must be attacked rather than putting the needs of the nation first. Thanks for your "patriotism" Republicans.
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Post by LFC on Jun 15, 2021 20:39:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 4:25:30 GMT
How will the States adapt? Easy. Reversing migration. Back to the Great Lakes region. From Scottsdale, AZ to Scotts, MI.
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