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Post by LFC on Feb 28, 2023 15:41:36 GMT
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Post by pnwguy on Feb 28, 2023 18:03:32 GMT
The problem with statements like these are that it's based on current electrical usage per household. But take fossil fuels out of the equations for heat, hot water, cooking, dryers and other natural gas usage, and the demand goes way up. Then add in EV charging of vehicles. I'm all in for eliminating carbon fuels. But optimism needs to be tamed on expectations.
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Post by LFC on Feb 28, 2023 20:42:02 GMT
The problem with statements like these are that it's based on current electrical usage per household. But take fossil fuels out of the equations for heat, hot water, cooking, dryers and other natural gas usage, and the demand goes way up. Then add in EV charging of vehicles. I'm all in for eliminating carbon fuels. But optimism needs to be tamed on expectations. I don't see the problem. We're talking about electrical generation which has a massive energy usage footprint. When people spoke of nuclear power for years it was also mostly focused on electrical generation. Home heating and other uses is another topic. An important one, for sure, but let's not fall into the trap of "all things fossil fuel or else it doesn't matter as much."
As an aside renewables have now become the most cost efficient source of electricity in many areas. Depending upon the price of oil and natural gas, and the efficiency of the things that use them, we might see a shift towards more electric appliances, hot water heaters, and even heating if they become cheaper to run.
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Post by LFC on Feb 28, 2023 20:52:26 GMT
As a follow-up, there's a lot more "bang for the buck" working on moving the power generation industry towards renewables since they burn a lot more fossil fuels. Plus it's a lot easier than retrofitting millions of homes, homes which will retrofit on their own over time if it's cheaper to go electric supplied by renewable sources.
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Post by pnwguy on Feb 28, 2023 22:38:50 GMT
The problem with statements like these are that it's based on current electrical usage per household. But take fossil fuels out of the equations for heat, hot water, cooking, dryers and other natural gas usage, and the demand goes way up. Then add in EV charging of vehicles. I'm all in for eliminating carbon fuels. But optimism needs to be tamed on expectations. I don't see the problem. We're talking about electrical generation which has a massive energy usage footprint. When people spoke of nuclear power for years it was also mostly focused on electrical generation. Home heating and other uses is another topic. An important one, for sure, but let's not fall into the trap of "all things fossil fuel or else it doesn't matter as much."
As an aside renewables have now become the most cost efficient source of electricity in many areas. Depending upon the price of oil and natural gas, and the efficiency of the things that use them, we might see a shift towards more electric appliances, hot water heaters, and even heating if they become cheaper to run.
I'm not trying to downplay all the efforts to renewables, and indeed they now look cheaper than alternatives per kWh. Warp speed, captain. I'm merely saying that the gauge used for "average American households" needs to be re-calibrated. In my personal example, I have natural gas for a range, hot water heater, dryer, and furnace. If I was eliminating all of those carbon-fuel usages, my electricity needs would likely triple. And I don't have an electric vehicle yet either. That not only affects the electrical generation side of the equation, but grid distribution as well, ignoring locally produced options like home solar.
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Post by LFC on Mar 15, 2023 16:11:09 GMT
Floating solar panels on man-made reservoirs would both produce electricity and prevent an enormous amount of evaporation of water that many places are desperate to hold onto.
On evaporation...
Yes, there are technical challenges but I suspect they'll be taken head-on in areas where water is precious. I know they've already proposed building out solar panels over canals in places like Arizona and California to provide electricity while reducing evaporation.
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Post by LFC on Mar 17, 2023 17:03:42 GMT
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Post by LFC on Mar 17, 2023 17:07:45 GMT
And right on schedule we have a purveyor of right-wing political cartoon propaganda jumping on the lie. (I did a search for "margolis and cox." The first hit was their website. The second was TownClownHall. Any questions?
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Post by LFC on Mar 20, 2023 19:11:19 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Mar 21, 2023 0:18:23 GMT
It's not been going so well in California either. The LA Times won't let me copy their photos so you'll have to click. This is from last week. Another atmospheric river is coming in tomorrow and Wednesday. Here's some rather breathless reporting on it. I would stop watching at about 1:30.
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Post by pnwguy on Mar 21, 2023 0:42:49 GMT
And right on schedule we have a purveyor of right-wing political cartoon propaganda jumping on the lie. (I did a search for "margolis and cox." The first hit was their website. The second was TownClownHall. Any questions? Coming soon to Trump rallies -- 'Save The Whales' flags and T-shirts! Of course, given the heft of many of the attendees...
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Post by LFC on Mar 23, 2023 15:50:23 GMT
There's a lot of reporting lately about heavy rain events but there's still quite a bit of drought in the U.S. Here's the drought tracker that the was the source.
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Post by LFC on Apr 4, 2023 20:09:11 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 4, 2023 21:09:28 GMT
Florida's agricultural industry, especially Big Sugar, has been notorious for fouling local waters which then end up carrying huge amount of fertilizer into ocean. That's the very type of fuel that the Sargassum Seaweed needs to grow in larger quantities than usual. Looks like a multi-million ton chicken has come home to roost.
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Post by LFC on Apr 5, 2023 18:21:14 GMT
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Post by LFC on Apr 7, 2023 21:05:23 GMT
Florida is drying out. Interesting that they have a drought while sea level rise is causing more saltwater incursions into aquifers. Oh, well. They can always drink that good clean water flowing from the sugar plantations.
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Post by LFC on Apr 25, 2023 21:27:07 GMT
Remember the mindless, thoughtless, dishonest spoutings from the denial community that more carbon would be good for all the plants so it would be a net positive? Yeeeahhhh, maybe not so much.
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Post by LFC on Apr 25, 2023 21:31:35 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 26, 2023 2:23:50 GMT
Are there flying whales in the Gulf?
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Post by LFC on Apr 26, 2023 17:02:57 GMT
Texas has been leading the nation in adoption of renewables. As you can imagine, Greg Abbott and the Republicans have decided that shit has got to stop. C'mon. It's not like none of us didn't know that the mantra of "Let the market decide!" would be thrown away the instant that the market didn't decide "correctly."
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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 26, 2023 17:43:52 GMT
Texas has been leading the nation in adoption of renewables. As you can imagine, Greg Abbott and the Republicans have decided that shit has got to stop. C'mon. It's not like none of us didn't know that the mantra of "Let the market decide!" would be thrown away the instant that the market didn't decide "correctly." If someone would dig deep enough into the convoluted corporate holdings of big oil they'd find that big oil is well invested in alternative energy sources like solar and wind. If they can make money doing it and still maintain the veil of "big oil" to impress those who have been brainwashed they will do it.
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Post by LFC on May 19, 2023 19:03:31 GMT
Strap in. This could be one rough year.
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Post by pnwguy on May 20, 2023 22:44:44 GMT
Texas has been leading the nation in adoption of renewables. As you can imagine, Greg Abbott and the Republicans have decided that shit has got to stop. C'mon. It's not like none of us didn't know that the mantra of "Let the market decide!" would be thrown away the instant that the market didn't decide "correctly." If someone would dig deep enough into the convoluted corporate holdings of big oil they'd find that big oil is well invested in alternative energy sources like solar and wind. If they can make money doing it and still maintain the veil of "big oil" to impress those who have been brainwashed they will do it. The same skills in geotechnical analytics and advanced deep drilling that the oil and gas industry already has is able to be channeled into deep geothermal well systems for 24x7 electricity generation
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Post by LFC on Jun 9, 2023 19:19:31 GMT
More "natural fluctuations."
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Post by LFC on Jun 23, 2023 16:49:10 GMT
Oh, FFS! If you are a policymaker and don't understand the problem by now, you're either an idiot or you are actively ignoring the piles of information and researchers available to you.
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