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Post by goldenvalley on Apr 29, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
Looks like the NYC investigation of Trump won't yield any indictments. Could it be that white collar crime is too difficult to prosecute due to the need to prove intent, so prosecutors just give up? Maybe we should rethink the law. I doubt prosecutors spend much time worrying about being able to prove that an individual robbed a variety of convenience stores beyond a reasonable doubt and dropping the case if they fear they can't prove it. Just charge the individual with a bunch of stuff and play hardball till they plead guilty to something.
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Post by LFC on Apr 29, 2022 17:43:39 GMT
Could it be that white collar crime is too difficult to prosecute due to the need to prove intent, so prosecutors just give up? Maybe we should rethink the law.
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Post by LFC on May 27, 2022 2:15:09 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jun 9, 2022 14:47:53 GMT
Trump and his demon spawn are going to have to testify.
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Post by LFC on Jul 6, 2022 16:40:54 GMT
The real estate firm that worked for Trump was just held in contempt. The judge needs to up the daily fines to at least 10X if not 100X. Even a big company might notice a $1M per day expense, unless of course they are clearly involved in a serious crime in which case they'll do ANYTHING to keep their execs out of jail. I suspect that's what is happening here.
How about you show up at their headquarters and perp walk the entire C-suite to jail? Meanwhile freeze both company and their personal assets. I bet that would get their attention.
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 6, 2022 18:22:02 GMT
The real estate firm that worked for Trump was just held in contempt. The judge needs to up the daily fines to at least 10X if not 100X. Even a big company might notice a $1M per day expense, unless of course they are clearly involved in a serious crime in which case they'll do ANYTHING to keep their execs out of jail. I suspect that's what is happening here.
How about you show up at their headquarters and perp walk the entire C-suite to jail? Meanwhile freeze both company and their personal assets. I bet that would get their attention. Corporations are people too! Unless they deserve jail time, then everyone goes scot free. Brought to you by the GOP!
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Post by LFC on Jul 12, 2022 17:52:08 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 12, 2022 18:02:43 GMT
Why it's just the real estate business. Everybody lies about the value of their real estate depending on whether you're paying taxes on it or using it as collateral. The Trumps are just being picked on. There is truth to all of those sentences. What the Trumps didn't realize is that by thrusting themselves into political view they will be scrutinized. That's just the nature of the beast.
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Post by LFC on Aug 10, 2022 15:53:08 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Aug 10, 2022 17:16:32 GMT
Great photo shopping job on that one!
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Post by goldenvalley on Aug 18, 2022 15:06:27 GMT
It's official. Mr Weisselberg, Trump's bookkeeper since forever, is sentenced to a grand total of 5 months. With time credited for good behavior he'll probably serve 100 days and pay almost $2 million. The origin of the case is Trump but guess what? Living high gets scrutiny. I guess private school tuition for the grandkids is worth 100 days in jail. White collar crime pays...the government seems only interested in the money if you get caught. If you've scammed enough you can cover the back taxes and attorney fees with no sweat.
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Post by LFC on Aug 18, 2022 15:12:21 GMT
White collar crime pays...the government seems only interested in the money if you get caught. If you've scammed enough you can cover the back taxes and attorney fees with no sweat. Imagine if he had a couple of grams of meth on him. He's be gone for years.
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Post by pnwguy on Aug 18, 2022 15:40:55 GMT
White collar crime pays...the government seems only interested in the money if you get caught. If you've scammed enough you can cover the back taxes and attorney fees with no sweat. Imagine if he Trump had a couple of grams of meth on him. He's be gone celebrated for years. "This just shows you the Deep State reaching out to control everyone's private choices" "He needed it to work all those Executive Time hours in the White House as he was saving 'Merica'" "The totally corrupt FBI planted it on him" "He was part of a sting operation to give it to Nancy Pelosi" "It got slipped in his coat when he was personally breaking up an Antifa BLM riot in the streets of DC"
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Post by LFC on Aug 18, 2022 21:16:47 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on Aug 18, 2022 21:22:08 GMT
Yeah...seems like hair splitting. From what I've read Trump is the organization...the decider of all things. Or maybe he'll only testify against Don, Jr., Eric and Ivanka.
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Post by LFC on Aug 18, 2022 21:36:18 GMT
Yeah...seems like hair splitting. From what I've read Trump is the organization...the decider of all things. Or maybe he'll only testify against Don, Jr., Eric and Ivanka. You can't possibly believe that Trump would turn on his [ snicker] own children [ snicker, snort] just to [ snicker, snicker] save his own... [ BWAHAHAHA!!!] OK, I can't even type that.
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Post by goldenvalley on Aug 18, 2022 22:00:33 GMT
Yeah...seems like hair splitting. From what I've read Trump is the organization...the decider of all things. Or maybe he'll only testify against Don, Jr., Eric and Ivanka. You can't possibly believe that Trump would turn on his [ snicker] own children [ snicker, snort] just to [ snicker, snicker] save his own... [ BWAHAHAHA!!!] OK, I can't even type that. Maybe not Ivanka...
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Post by LFC on Aug 18, 2022 22:12:28 GMT
You can't possibly believe that Trump would turn on his [ snicker] own children [ snicker, snort] just to [ snicker, snicker] save his own... [ BWAHAHAHA!!!] OK, I can't even type that. Maybe not Ivanka... Only if he thinks he still has a shot with her.
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Post by AnBr on Aug 19, 2022 11:17:22 GMT
Only if he thinks he still has a shot with her.
Same thought occurred to me.
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Post by LFC on Sept 22, 2022 0:26:00 GMT
Well, it's not lock him up but it's a start.
Ooooo! So maybe criminal charges too!
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Post by goldenvalley on Sept 22, 2022 4:28:56 GMT
Well, it's not lock him up but it's a start.
Ooooo! So maybe criminal charges too!
Ahh Trump's just a smart businessman who is being picked on for political reasons. Lots of businessmen do this sort of fraud. On that latter part he may be right, but dude...when you draw attention to yourself repeatedly do you really expect the legal authorities to ignore you? ETA a comment on LGM...Poor Tiffany Trump...she can't even be let in on the family fraud.
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Post by pnwguy on Sept 22, 2022 9:44:21 GMT
Well, it's not lock him up but it's a start.
Ooooo! So maybe criminal charges too! Ahh Trump's just a smart businessman mafia boss who is being picked on for political reasons. Lots of businessmen mafia bosses do this sort of fraud execution of their enemies. Isn't that the logical analogy? Just don't expect Sean Hannity to make it.
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Post by LFC on Oct 16, 2022 1:42:53 GMT
Well, well. Isn't this interesting?
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Post by indy on Oct 16, 2022 11:18:22 GMT
Anyone who gets involved with Trump, especially in any sort of business, get what they deserve. Even though I know enough about him and his practices to fill multiple volumes and nothing should surprise me at this point, he still manages to pull it off.
The number of destroyed lives and business rubble that Trump has created over his career must be just enormous.
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Post by andydp on Nov 18, 2022 14:11:52 GMT
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