AnBr
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Post by AnBr on May 14, 2021 14:50:03 GMT
Where were these 100 people before the election? Sitting back and hoping that a Trump loss would break the radicals. How wrong they were.
David Frum was late to the game. Bill Kristol after that. Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, and the rest of the Lincoln Project folks were later to the game. Liz Cheney was later even yet. Now we have 100 more who required not just a literal insurrection but near unanimous fealty of the Republican Party apparatus and officials to the insurrectionist in chief. For too many even that's not enough to budge them. These people are all cowards, simultaneously responsible for pushing the GOP to where it is today while ignoring what they wrought. Then there are those who are truly all in. They're just traitors and are not real Americans in my book.
I believe the word I'm looking to describe all of these people is "complicit." Sure there are different levels of being complicit but all that really matters now is how hard they'll fight to atone for their sins. "I once said I didn't agree with everything Donald Trump said" ain't gonna' cut it.
And Frum knew better. Remember how for many election cycles now Frum would bemoan about the kinds of people in the Republican party came to the fore, but by election time election he fell in line. Every. Single. Time. This in spite of the fact that he admitted that it would take several consecutive losses to break the knuckle draggers. I guess for him party loyalty meant following the marching morons over the cliff rather than doing the only thing that would save the party. To start voting the knuckle draggers out, even if that meant voting for the Ds.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 14, 2021 15:29:45 GMT
David Frum was late to the game. Bill Kristol after that. Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, and the rest of the Lincoln Project folks were later to the game. Liz Cheney was later even yet. Now we have 100 more who required not just a literal insurrection but near unanimous fealty of the Republican Party apparatus and officials to the insurrectionist in chief. For too many even that's not enough to budge them. These people are all cowards, simultaneously responsible for pushing the GOP to where it is today while ignoring what they wrought. Then there are those who are truly all in. They're just traitors and are not real Americans in my book.
I believe the word I'm looking to describe all of these people is "complicit." Sure there are different levels of being complicit but all that really matters now is how hard they'll fight to atone for their sins. "I once said I didn't agree with everything Donald Trump said" ain't gonna' cut it.
And Frum knew better. Remember how for many election cycles now Frum would bemoan about the kinds of people in the Republican party came to the fore, but by election time election he fell in line. Every. Single. Time. This in spite of the fact that he admitted that it would take several consecutive losses to break the knuckle draggers. I guess for him party loyalty meant following the marching morons over the cliff rather than doing the only thing that would save the party. To start voting the knuckle draggers out, even if that meant voting for the Ds. Frum did publish Trumpocracy in 2018, so he was aware of the problems. But Frum lost influence with the world he once was a part of so it didn't make much impact. Just before the 2016 election he wrote that he supported Clinton. I doubt anyone noticed.
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Post by LFC on May 14, 2021 15:44:58 GMT
Frum did publish Trumpocracy in 2018, so he was aware of the problems. But Frum lost influence with the world he once was a part of so it didn't make much impact. Just before the 2016 election he wrote that he supported Clinton. I doubt anyone noticed. Frum lost his last shred of credibility when he said "Vote Romney! He doesn't mean what he says!"
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Post by LFC on May 14, 2021 15:49:16 GMT
Marjorie Taylor Greene has been pulling nutty stunts since well before she was elected by the MAGAt mouth breathers in her district. I remember a time when a person like this would have been politically ostracized (or at least kept at arm's length) as being insane. Not anymore.
Spoiled, angry, nasty, stupid little children.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 14, 2021 16:08:33 GMT
Marjorie Taylor Greene has been pulling nutty stunts since well before she was elected by the MAGAt mouth breathers in her district. I remember a time when a person like this would have been politically ostracized (or at least kept at arm's length) as being insane. Not anymore. clip
Spoiled, angry, nasty, stupid little children.
She did the chase someone down routine for video a couple of years ago...the target was one of the Parkland High School students David Hogg. It's just twisted and sick. ETA And attention grabbing and exactly what she enjoys providing to her loyal fans, just like the resident of Mar A Lago.
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Post by LFC on May 14, 2021 17:31:35 GMT
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AnBr
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Post by AnBr on May 15, 2021 0:55:52 GMT
Frum did publish Trumpocracy in 2018, so he was aware of the problems. But Frum lost influence with the world he once was a part of so it didn't make much impact. Just before the 2016 election he wrote that he supported Clinton. I doubt anyone noticed. Frum lost his last shred of credibility when he said "Vote Romney! He doesn't mean what he says!" So much this. He had been doing this for far longer than tRump. In fact, it took tRump to make him say, "now wait a minute." You can lay the orange mango at the feet of Frum and all of the rest in "conservative" media for not calling out the insanity and corruption before it took root. And that includes some of those that formed the Lincoln Project. The main difference is at least the Lincoln Project people are trying to undo the damage they helped sow. Whether it is too little and too late remains to be seen, but they at least helped oust the MAGAts' great orange god. History will not be kind to them.
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Post by AnBr on May 17, 2021 14:39:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 14:50:48 GMT
At long last, so does do most Americans! After all, the deficit of past few years needs to filled.
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Post by pnwguy on May 17, 2021 17:34:29 GMT
At long last, so does most Americans! After all, the deficit of past few years needs to filled. Rage Toilet Tweets at 3 am are what a True American President does to protect the nation! Next up on Fox: Biden has less diarrhea than Trump, so he can't be healthy. "He'll die in office and leave us with Marxist Kamala to enslave us!"
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Post by LFC on May 18, 2021 17:58:16 GMT
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Post by pnwguy on May 18, 2021 18:05:36 GMT
The difference is accountable to the lockstep efforts of Conservative Media, Inc. to stoke outrage 24x7, because their business profits depend on it. The Gospel of Trump is the easiest and best way to do that, so it's preached non-stop. The people in the pews are hoodwinked, so the choir has to sing those hymns or face a mass exodus. And it provides a feed back loop, as bad as climate change.
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Post by RichTBikkies on May 18, 2021 19:36:58 GMT
Rage Toilet Tweets at 3 am are what a True American President does to protect the nation! Next up on Fox: Biden has less diarrhea than Trump, so he can't be healthy. "He'll die in office and leave us with Marxist Kamala to enslave us!" pnwguy , this is all Political-satire Gold, but I fear you are stealing LFC's thunder. [FYI, "thunderbox" is old British military slang for a portable commode.]
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Post by LFC on May 18, 2021 19:52:32 GMT
pnwguy , this is all Political-satire Gold, but I fear you are stealing LFC's thunder. "Thunder! Thunder! Thundercats, HO!"
When it comes to humor and satire I'm one of those who believe in "the more the merrier."
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Post by HockeyDon on May 19, 2021 12:22:30 GMT
When it comes to humor and satire I'm one of those who believe in "the more the merrier."
Quantity over quality?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 12:41:50 GMT
When it comes to humor and satire I'm one of those who believe in "the more the merrier."
Quantity over quality?
It's a great strategy for folks on the tenure track... voluminous output, and by output I mean... How else does one shoot out to be Asst. Prof.? I'm just joshing. Admiration for LFC's tenacity...
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Post by LFC on May 19, 2021 12:42:00 GMT
When it comes to humor and satire I'm one of those who believe in "the more the merrier."
Quantity over quality?
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Post by HockeyDon on May 19, 2021 13:31:52 GMT
Why not both for humor and satire? Combined? I eagerly await this.
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Post by LFC on May 19, 2021 21:02:44 GMT
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Post by Bact PhD on May 21, 2021 21:30:10 GMT
It's a great strategy for folks on the tenure track... voluminous output, and by output I mean... How else does one shoot out to be Asst. Prof.? I'm just joshing. Admiration for LFC's tenacity... Welllll...you all know what "P h D" stands for.
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AnBr
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Post by AnBr on May 22, 2021 1:46:30 GMT
Piling higher and deeper?
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Post by Bact PhD on May 22, 2021 14:28:48 GMT
Piling higher and deeper? You got it!
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AnBr
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Post by AnBr on May 22, 2021 14:40:15 GMT
Then there is Bull Shit and More Shit.
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Post by Bact PhD on May 22, 2021 17:44:57 GMT
Then there is Bull Shit and More Shit. Of course!
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Post by Traveler on May 24, 2021 13:13:22 GMT
I just found out Researchgate says I have as many citations as my colleague who just got full prof. For only 10 papers. But one was a ringer (450 alone) back in 95, when I was only one of many coauthors. Its not how much you publish, it's how good your papers are.
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