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Post by pg on Apr 8, 2022 19:56:11 GMT
And the Senate just confirmed a new Supreme Court justice, Ketanji Brown Jackson. Yes. We have some real nutballs out there "running" things. But let's celebrate the first, completely qualified black woman on SCOTUS. We shall see, but this confirmation seems so right and proper.
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Post by LFC on Apr 18, 2022 14:35:40 GMT
Right-wing partisan hack SCOTUS came to the rescue.
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Post by LFC on May 3, 2022 17:12:46 GMT
Here comes the white, male dominated theocracy. Sorry gays. Sorry women who want to use birth control rather than be forced to choose between being celibate or a state mandated incubator. "Originalism" doesn't recognize your rights.
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jackd
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Post by jackd on May 3, 2022 18:39:38 GMT
Might be a blessing in disguise. Conventional wisdom said Democrats weren't motivated for the mid=terms. This ought to change that. I think that's why McConnell is so upset.
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Post by pnwguy on May 3, 2022 18:50:01 GMT
The United States of Gilead -- brought to you by MAGAts, American oligarchs, and the right wing entertainment industry. Only in this TV show, Canada probably won't be a safe place to flee to.
Will someone start a web site to sell cyanide tablets?
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Post by AnBr on May 3, 2022 19:00:53 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 4, 2022 17:03:42 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 4, 2022 17:11:20 GMT
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Post by LFC on May 4, 2022 17:12:26 GMT
Alito also called back to Barret's evoking the weak anti-abortionist " safe haven" argument.
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Post by pnwguy on May 4, 2022 17:17:58 GMT
The draft’s logic on "unenumerated rights" also means SCOTUS should nullify Eisenstadt, Griswold, Lawrence, Obergefell, and even Lovings, if any cases challenging those decisions reach the high court. I'm not sure what state legislature would bring a challenge to Lovings in the 21st century, but let's assume Justice Thomas might vote against it.
Why should SCOTUS not uphold a state law that grants fathers the right to arrange marriages for their daughters, or to veto their choice of mates, even as adults? Where does it say in the Constitution that marital autonomy is allowed? Was it part of US history and culture in the founders' era?
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Post by LFC on May 4, 2022 18:20:40 GMT
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Post by goldenvalley on May 4, 2022 18:23:10 GMT
And a Black person is 3/5th of a person and not allowed to vote.
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jackd
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Post by jackd on May 4, 2022 18:38:36 GMT
Well, not to dignify Alito's opinion, but women and African American voting rights are covered by specific amendments to the Constitution. Interestingly, the court's power to rule on constitutionality of anything is not specifically provided in the constitution. John Marshall "made it up" from Alito's apparent perspective.
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Post by LFC on May 4, 2022 18:54:42 GMT
Well, not to dignify Alito's opinion, but women and African American voting rights are covered by specific amendments to the Constitution. I thought the point being made was that Alito is trying to harken back to those times before those amendments as a justification in a time after the amendments were passed. Perhaps I interpreted it wrong. Whoa. I had never heard that before.
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Post by LFC on May 5, 2022 14:09:51 GMT
TPM has a primer on who would have actually had access to the opinion and could potentially leak it.
Details follow.
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Post by LFC on May 5, 2022 14:13:43 GMT
Josh Marshall believes the draft was leaked by the right to prevent Roberts from gaining traction with a justice to provide a less maximalist, radical, precedent crushing decision. He makes an interesting case.
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Post by LFC on May 5, 2022 14:38:45 GMT
Partisan hack SCOTUS has opened up Pandora's fascist box and the fascists know it. Greg Abbott is already crowing about taking it further. They know that the partisan hacks have decided that precedent has no meaning anymore. It's a whole new activist court.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 5, 2022 15:28:45 GMT
Josh Marshall believes the draft was leaked by the right to prevent Roberts from gaining traction with a justice to provide a less maximalist, radical, precedent crushing decision. He makes an interesting case. Yeah the draft opinion goes way beyond what was needed to find the MS law to be Constitutional. Those recently appointed justices want to find a way to uphold the Texas law so they had to go big with abolishing all of Roe. Roberts is a hair splitter who doesn't like big sweeping decisions. Roberts is, in a way, an old school judicial restraint justice, but I still think he'd dive deep to kill off the Voting Rights Acts...that's his real passion, not abortion.
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Post by jackd on May 5, 2022 17:50:08 GMT
Maybe Josh is right but I think it is equally likely that one of the Democratic dissenters did it to fire up the Democratic voters for the midterms. There's a reason McConnell and McCarthy were outraged and it has nothing to do with Supreme Court custom. They are counting on taking over Congress. I'm going to bet on Breyer who is retiring and may have feared the Court would hold up the opinion until after the midterms which they could do. Whatever the cause, it was a boon to the Democrats for the midterms.
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Post by LFC on May 5, 2022 21:26:51 GMT
Josh Marshall notes another author who believes the leak came from the left, but is using some of the same reasoning i.e. the deliberations and inside court business was already clearly being leaked by the right to outlets like the WSJ.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 5, 2022 22:56:59 GMT
Is the Supreme Court so sacred anymore? You're got partisans refusing to appoint a new justice for a whole year after one dies. You have the same partisans appointing and confirming another justice within 3 months of another one dying. The Court is not off limits to partisan behavior anymore. This handwringing is just a SQUIRREL exercise.
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Post by LFC on May 6, 2022 16:02:28 GMT
Vox got the opinions of 9 legal scholars on what partisan hack SCOTUS has wrought and what rights could be taken away next. It's amazing how the "FREEDUMB!" crowd is all about taking away the rights they don't like. I've put in a few examples of how this will be used to destroy our nation. Here's the first opinion:
This one shows how Alito simply ignored the fact that the time he calls upon for "traditions" was a time when large classes of people had inferior rights.
Expect this "reasoning" to be used to further cement partisan hackery in elections.
And this is a view that Alito has now defined two classes of rights, something I find staggeringly "original."
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Post by LFC on May 6, 2022 20:31:15 GMT
The more people read Alito's leaked draft opinion the more f***ed up it sounds. This screams of a heinous, corrupted version of Catholicism the likes of which are promoted by other sick and twisted people like former Pope Joseph Ratzinger, Josh Hawley, and even Steve Bannon.
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Post by pnwguy on May 6, 2022 23:13:53 GMT
The more people read Alito's leaked draft opinion the more f***ed up it sounds. This screams of a heinous, corrupted version of Catholicism the likes of which are promoted by other sick and twisted people like former Pope Joseph Ratzinger, Josh Hawley, and even Steve Bannon. Blacks might have been 3/5ths human, but women were essentially slightly under half. Their husbands count more and get to make all the decisions.
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jackd
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Post by jackd on May 7, 2022 0:07:51 GMT
Be fair, LFC; it isn't just Catholics.
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