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Post by LFC on Sept 15, 2022 14:47:56 GMT
Interesting thread on the failures of German intelligence to recognize what was happening in Ukraine. They've received a lot of shit over perceived foot dragging. Maybe the past week has woken them up.
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Post by LFC on Sept 15, 2022 15:18:12 GMT
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Post by LFC on Sept 15, 2022 21:34:06 GMT
The Russian's at Kherson continue to get tenderized. They can't keep their army supplied and winter is coming. As I noted on the Russia thread the average winter in the area is like sections of New England, averaging a little above freezing for highs and in the 20s at night. (Kharkiv is 8-10 deg F cooler on average.) That's totally doable, if you have the right clothing, fuel, water, and food.
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Post by LFC on Sept 15, 2022 21:58:00 GMT
This may be how things are settling out in Kharkiv Oblast.
Here's a map. I understand taking to what cover you can for defense lines but the Zherebets River is barely worthy of the term "river." There's a 7-1/2 mile long reservoir at the southern end of where they're defending but other than that, using Google Maps, I could determine that this creek is less than 100' wide in nearly the entire length. There are large sections as you move northward where it's so small you can't even see water on a satellite photo. There are a number of other rivers closer to the Russian border but I don't know if any of them is more defensible than the one they're going to try to line up on. Maybe the Aidar River which seems to have high ground on the west side but that's half way from the Zherebets to the Russian border.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 17:47:37 GMT
More and more criticism of Germany's foot dragging is coming out. This is about one case where they couldn't, couldn't, couldn't until the pressure was finally so bad they could.
So why is Germany acting like this? This explanation says, as always, follow the money.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 18:10:21 GMT
Ukraine continues to make smaller gains up north.
Note that the only attempt at forward movement by Russia is at Bakhmut, the place where they called for a short armistice last weekend to collect "mounds" of their dead. It illustrates what several analysts have been saying all along. Russia's offensives consist of massed artillery backing head on attacks. They are (were) prepared to fight a war of head to head attrition where they believe they can outlast the defense. Ukraine is mostly fighting a war of strategic attrition, where they use and lose MUCH less than the Russians. The number of places left on the front where Russia can fight its kind of fight are diminished. The number that Ukraine would let them to fight their kind of fight are virtually gone.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 18:13:56 GMT
The story sounds the same in every place they liberate. Way to motivate an entire population to want to kill you. It's no wonder that Ukraine sees it's only path forward as joining the EU and NATO.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 18:15:58 GMT
The story of Russian soldiers refusing to fight keeps coming up again and again in different places. Looking at the hit rate of truth on so many of the reports coming out during this war my guess is that it's mostly true.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 18:23:09 GMT
What now, Mr. Putin? He has to choose A, B, or some of each. I found the statement that Putin has historically been "indecisive when the stakes are high, preferring to step into situations without ever resolving them" rather interesting. He sounds very much like Trump in this regard. Everything is about tactics and short-term maneuvers. Big gambles where failure blows back directly on him? Not so much. And that tells us plenty about what Putin really thought this war would be.
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Post by LFC on Sept 16, 2022 18:24:56 GMT
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:07:36 GMT
Meanwhile in the Russian occupied Luhansk region... The resistance by those trapped for years in Russian held areas continues.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:23:39 GMT
Highlights of the ISW (Institute for the Study of War) assessment from Sep 16. Tons of details including maps at the link. Bold of Russian desperation mine.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:28:59 GMT
Some more analysis on the Kharkiv operation, this time from a German general.
So they brought up 3 brigades for the operation and now the Russians have left them enough equipment to create nearly another full one as long as they have the manpower.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:34:01 GMT
Ukraine is reportedly moving on the west bank of the Oskil River. That's where Russian troops are apparently trying to dig and and defend.
It appears they've already established control over the northern part. I'm no military strategist but it seems like a defensive position with a river to your front is a good thing. But if Ukrainian troops swing around and can come at your flanks and rear, pinning you against that river, that's a bad thing.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:37:27 GMT
ISW update for Sep. 17. Bold of Russian head scratching actions mine. Also the fact that Russia is fighting against a nation, not a military.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:38:48 GMT
And now a few moments of failure to acknowledge reality.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 15:40:56 GMT
Ukrainian trolling continues as part of their campaign to uplift their people's spirits and grind down Russia's morale.
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Post by andydp on Sept 18, 2022 16:18:19 GMT
The prior reports are amazing. I never thought the Ru Army was that inept.
Some things I noticed besides the abandonment of weapons, ammunition and supplies: there are no (or very few) reports of booby traps on these materials. If they were half competent, there would have been some hidden "easter eggs" in those ammo cases.
One report mentioned Ru Army seems to have no fall back positions. Hand in hand with that is "contingency" plans if the enemy were to attack at places other than your front. Doctrine says flank attacks are the best. Failing to defend the flanks whether with people or obstacles is an open invitation. I should note obstacles also have to be under observation so you can call in artillery. In WWII the Germans had some great obstacles but they didn't have them under observation. Guess what happened.
We also note the materiel left behind will certainly be used by the UA. Standardization in the Warsaw Pact is paying dividends. (NOT in the way they assumed it would.)
We did war games for 20 years assuming an overwhelming Russian attack in the "Fulda Gap". The collapse of the Russians is simply amazing to me and to my friends. We never thought they would be this bad. We knew their training was "set piece" and top down driven. They had no room for incentive at the lower unit level. One thing we were told: take out the tank with the most antennas. (Commander's tank) Russian tanks typically only have a radio receiver to get orders.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 17:21:03 GMT
The prior reports are amazing. I never thought the Ru Army was that inept. It's interesting that there are two camps on this, both which are surprised but one which is less surprised. The former consists of just about everybody. The latter contains people who actually saw the Russian military up close during various cross-alliance events that took place during a more friendly time. Those people said they always knew the Russian military was a shitshow, just not THIS much of a shitshow.
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Post by LFC on Sept 18, 2022 18:38:29 GMT
Russia just gave another big military intel coup to the West. While the U.S. is spending a lot to help Ukraine it's not like we're only getting intangibles in return.
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Post by andydp on Sept 18, 2022 19:25:22 GMT
Russia just gave another big military intel coup to the West. While the U.S. is spending a lot to help Ukraine it's not like we're only getting intangibles in return. Couple that with the capture of the jammer this is literally an early Christmas
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Post by LFC on Sept 19, 2022 18:12:45 GMT
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Post by LFC on Sept 19, 2022 18:17:48 GMT
This is desperation. As has been pointed out by those more knowledgeable of military logistics, who the hell would want to drive heavy equipment across a support made out of stacked up train cars? It's been pointed out that Russia gave up on the pontoon bridges because a) Ukraine was blowing them up regularly and/or b) they're running out of pontoon bridge parts.
At least they managed to gum up the canal used for shipping on the river. On that score, assuming they're planning on leaving soon, they're leaving a future shit-show behind for Ukraine to clear up.
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Post by andydp on Sept 19, 2022 20:19:04 GMT
This is desperation. As has been pointed out by those more knowledgeable of military logistics, who the hell would want to drive heavy equipment across a support made out of stacked up train cars? It's been pointed out that Russia gave up on the pontoon bridges because a) Ukraine was blowing them up regularly and/or b) they're running out of pontoon bridge parts.
At least they managed to gum up the canal used for shipping on the river. On that score, assuming they're planning on leaving soon, they're leaving a future shit-show behind for Ukraine to clear up.
Actually, its pretty ingenious. Put some of the surviving decking on top of the rail cars and you have a "bridge". Problem is it will NOT be able to handle the heavy stuff (like, say, tanks). A lot of drivers may be hesitant to drive over the "bridge". I would use the surviving decking from the destroyed bridge parts. Based on their logistical and transport reputation during this "special operation", not going to be easy. "Lack of bridge parts" is a problem for any armed force. The equipment is specialized, expensive, you need specially trained personnel and believe it or not, you also need special boats to put the equipment in place.
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Post by LFC on Sept 19, 2022 21:00:41 GMT
I guess a number of men are choosing to be Ukrainian POWs rather than Russian prisoners. Good job, Russia!
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