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Post by LFC on May 11, 2023 15:02:11 GMT
DeSatanist and his Republican minions continue to cut the state's dick off. Construction has stopped in places and other sources note that there are crops not being picked.
The thing is that I don't actually disagree with the policy, but the execution is as blunt and ham-fisted as you can possibly get. Of course working out the situation of illegal labor with the facts on the ground is tough and requires thought, care, expertise, and competence. That's about as far outside of the Republican wheelhouse as it gets.
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Post by jackd on May 11, 2023 15:09:37 GMT
On the other hand, squeezing the employers who use the undocumented labor might bring pressure on the Republicans to work on immigration reform.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 11, 2023 16:46:29 GMT
Capitalists do not bow to petty rules about who you hire, what conditions are, or what employees are paid. Child labor is valuable to them...used to be mostly in the fields but apparently is now in meat processing and other facilities. I see no chance of any solution to the situation with undocumented people being exploited. There is no political will.
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Post by jackd on May 11, 2023 16:57:36 GMT
Unless, of course, it costs them more than they make off their violations.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 11, 2023 17:01:31 GMT
Unless, of course, it costs them more than they make off their violations. Utopia!
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Post by LFC on May 11, 2023 17:12:00 GMT
On the other hand, squeezing the employers who use the undocumented labor might bring pressure on the Republicans to work on immigration reform. Doubtful. They've spend years and years winding up blind hatred for immigrants so even the most lukewarm of solutions will send the likes of MTG and Gaetz into total spasms. It doesn't take much.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 11, 2023 17:17:21 GMT
On the other hand, squeezing the employers who use the undocumented labor might bring pressure on the Republicans to work on immigration reform. Doubtful. They've spend years and years winding up blind hatred for immigrants so even the most lukewarm of solutions will send the likes of MTG and Gaetz into total spasms. It doesn't take much. Agree. In CA I constantly hear about how "illegals" take the jobs...using fake paperwork. And then they hate any attempt to mandate use of E-Verify or something similar as government intrusion into business. They've totally taken in the business line on this stuff.
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Post by LFC on May 11, 2023 17:43:25 GMT
Yes, these are the MAGAts. They really are the deplorables.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 11, 2023 18:39:10 GMT
Yes, these are the MAGAts. They really are the deplorables. I didn't watch but my impression from tweets like the above is that it was a Trump rally that featured an opportunity for him to try to humiliate a female moderator. I don't fear Trump so much as I fear the folks jeering and applauding his schtick.
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Post by LFC on May 11, 2023 18:44:14 GMT
I don't fear Trump so much as I fear the folks jeering and applauding his schtick. Especially since they're heavily armed.
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Post by pnwguy on May 11, 2023 23:35:25 GMT
Yes, these are the MAGAts. They really are the deplorables. Like the "good Germans"? They were capable of dehumanizing the Other, rounding them up, and pushing them into gas chambers and ovens. Every country who falls into depraved authoritarianism believes their country was the place it "couldn't happen here". Our Nazis will do the same, with just as much smugness, blind hatred, and inhumanity. The question is, what other democracies will oppose us when we sink into internal barbarism.
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Post by jackd on May 12, 2023 1:20:28 GMT
Well, the good news is that Trump lost the last election as well as the most recent midterm.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 12, 2023 13:43:54 GMT
Well, the good news is that Trump lost the last election as well as the most recent midterm. Yeah but he has unleashed a whole lot of other people. The House has a bunch of them, so do state legislatures across the country, as do local governments including school boards. Even when they narrowly lose elections these folks spread hatred and distrust of everything. It will be generations before some of this wears off if it wears off at all.
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Post by LFC on May 19, 2023 0:59:55 GMT
Lauren Bimbobert is getting divorced but that's just a small piece of this story. Women in red states are becoming more independent, and conservative man-babies who view a wife as a mother with benefits (Eeeewwww!!!) have taken notice. Rather than pull themselves up by their boostraps, grow up, and become desirable partners, they're trying to make it harder for women to leave them but, as the stats show, it can be easier to be a single mother than have to take care of a man-baby as well.
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Post by goldenvalley on May 30, 2023 18:56:13 GMT
People say the darnedest things on Steve Bannon's show... Big brave indicted and maybe impeached Paxton's saving Texas for Trump and Cruz.
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Post by LFC on May 31, 2023 22:15:29 GMT
From Chick-fil-a to Shit-fil-a with one announcement about not discriminating against people.
Nobody does cancel culture like the right-wingnuts!
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Post by goldenvalley on Jun 27, 2023 16:52:38 GMT
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Post by LFC on Jun 27, 2023 17:53:04 GMT
I'm always interested in what this woman has to say and then I wonder if she's serious because she was a down the line hard right Congressmember in the years before 2021. I'd like to know what her definition of "we" happens to be. Is it "we" as in all Americans or "we" as in supporters of the Republican Party? The article doesn't make it clear and if it's the former, Ms. Cheney can take her speech, print it out, wrap it around a brick, and shove it where the sun don't shine.
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Post by andydp on Jun 27, 2023 18:36:29 GMT
Since its primary season in NYS, we got a flyer from the town GOP. This one was about a person running for Highway Superintendent. This person's duties encompass pothole repair to snow plowing.
I didn't read the letter, but this person was the best candidate to keep insidious Democrats away from this position.
All I kept thinking was Fiorello La Guardia's statement:
There is no Democratic or Republican way of cleaning the streets.
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Post by pnwguy on Jun 27, 2023 22:23:04 GMT
There is no Democratic or Republican way of cleaning the streets. Not through MAGA eyes. Republicans would be brooming the streets, Democrats would be grooming them... And if you elect a Democrat, then they will be paving with rainbow colored asphalt stripes. They are paving the road to hell. We MUST stop them!
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Post by LFC on Jul 10, 2023 22:00:01 GMT
So much for supporting the military. They would literally allow soldiers to die in noisy, gas/diesel machines rather than allow them to use silent electric vehicles just to continue virtue signaling to their ignorant, arrogant base.
Uuuuhhhh, the military has experimented with "untested technology" for at least a century. Paul Gosar is an idiot.
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Post by andydp on Jul 11, 2023 13:36:44 GMT
Making a comment would be like "guilding refined gold". Too manty salient points to highlight. Arizona’s GOP Went All-In on Trump’s Big Lie—Now It's Broke
“The cobwebs in the bank vault aren’t as important as all the money wasted. The party blew $300,000 on ‘legal consulting,’ much of which focused on overturning Trump’s 2020 defeat. All they have to show for it are a Democratic governor and U.S. Senate delegation,” Gabriel continued. The obvious conclusion is that election denial hurts the deniers. This is true for multiple reasons. First, obsessively worrying about having a future election stolen from you can divert energy away from voter contact programs that might actually prevent, you know, losing elections in the first place. Second, in the aftermath of a loss, pretending you won guarantees zero lessons are learned, even as it continues eating up money (in, say, legal fees) and diverts attention from future elections. Third, donors don’t want to give money to a crazy party. As Gabriel writes, “If they [Republican party bosses] waste their money on Cyber Ninjas and futile lawsuits, they can’t be shocked when donations dry up.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/arizona-s-gop-went-all-in-on-trump-s-big-lie-now-it-s-broke/ar-AA1dGXVc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0b214a89c8c54deba84fb112a3d36d15&ei=16
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 11, 2023 15:03:40 GMT
Making a comment would be like "guilding refined gold". Too manty salient points to highlight. Arizona’s GOP Went All-In on Trump’s Big Lie—Now It's Broke...... Third, donors don’t want to give money to a crazy party. As Gabriel writes, “If they [Republican party bosses] waste their money on Cyber Ninjas and futile lawsuits, they can’t be shocked when donations dry up.” I suspect donors also don't want to give money to a party that puts up nut jobs like Lake and Blake Masters for high office. Lake looked more crazy post election than she did pre election.
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Post by pnwguy on Jul 11, 2023 16:49:03 GMT
Lake looked more crazy post election than she did pre election. Putting her at the top of the Trump VP choices, not to mention that he'd like to "date" her. And he wouldn't have to pay her $130K to be quiet about it.
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Post by goldenvalley on Jul 11, 2023 23:08:30 GMT
Lake looked more crazy post election than she did pre election. Putting her at the top of the Trump VP choices, not to mention that he'd like to "date" her. And he wouldn't have to pay her $130K to be quiet about it. A Vanity Fair article suggested Trump was sick of her hanging around Mar A Lago this last few months. Maybe she ran up a big bar tab and didn't pay.
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